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My problem with this is that most people think the solution is to ask politely leveraging peaceful protests and waving signs.
When in reality this has been a popular concept that is protested for the past 100 years with ZERO actual progress, and the real solution to properly implement this kind of generous socialist idea of distribution of wealth and food and shelter with equity requires aggressive rhetoric and likely needs to be enforced with actual violence, otherwise fascism and capitalism will continue to persist for generations.
Honestly, I think most people don't even see it as a problem. Anyone who is better off than the average person likely doesn't want stuff to get handed out for free. It's easy to think "I struggled to get my stuff and now we're just going to give it out for free!?"
It's like someone finally paying off their student loan after years of thrifty spending and going without and then seeing their classmate who didn't pay a dime towards theirs, instead spending on frivolous luxuries and going on yearly trips, having it forgiven. The person who did things "the right way" feels like they got played.
Unless people who have gone through struggles to improve their situation can avoid feeling slighted, they're unlikely to be supportive of change.
While my anecdotal story won't mean much in the sea of Internet comments, i look at it from a societal point of view; when I graduated college, I came out with $100k in debt, no job, and no way to make ends meet. I did work hard through jobs and through as many clever ways to move the debt around as much as possible. Eventually, after many years, they were paid off. Student loans are a curse cast by the greedy predatory schools and lenders that make empty promises.
Who am I to get upset when someone figures out a way, or stumbles into a way to release them from that curse? In the long run, the sooner loans are paid off/forgiven, the sooner it will help everyone else.
The most important asset to any country is it's people, so why wouldn't we want to take care of each other in every way possible? We all live on the same rock together, so why not try to make life less painful for everyone.
Will people take advantage of it? Of course. There is no way to prevent that, but if resources are provided or made easier to access, then it makes it less likely for people to take advantage of it.
Do I think that will ever happen? Probably not, it's a utopian ideal and it would take such a major paradigm shift to get people to have empathy for others and to help lift each other up during rough times. I still think it's something to strive for, even if we only achieve a fraction of that utopia.
Also anecdotally, among my friends the ones who had it paid for/scholarships are against relief while the ones who paid it off themselves are for it. It does kinda feel like those who went through it want to save others from having to do it to