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[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fucking finally. Dammit Bernie. You already severed my heart strings for you. You can’t come back. But, keep saying it! Keep speaking the truth. Better late than never.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

🙄

There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them.

You'll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O'Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn't see all these Lemmy comments saying "TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT" or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn't do sporting events with Israel, I didn't see anyone commenting "YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES" or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.

If you want to know what Bernie's been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990

And so on. He's been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide" is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, my standard is set pretty high especially for someone like Bernie who I really had on a pedestal. Things sound different when you have family on the ground. That being said I appreciate your post and sharing this information. I think the expectation for Bernie is set higher than others because he was meant to be “our guy”, same with AOC, so any falter feels 10x bigger than from those we already expect it from.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

What fucking falter, what are you talking about? Calling it "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide" was your red line, and undoes all the relentless effort he's been putting in to try to stop the US government from helping Israel with their horrifying crimes?

I literally just don't get this. The AOC thing is incredibly stupid, too. I talked more about it here.