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Arrest the HC CEOs too. And everyone else complicit in killing people for profit.
Healthcare businesses will always be responsible for saving and taking life. Are you wanting to dissuade anyone from ever working in healthcare and thus dismantle it entirely?
Bullshit. In sane countries, if a doctor bills a service, the insurance simply has to pay it. In most health systems, if a licensed doc bills what is a normal unexceptional standard procedure for a condition, the insurance simply has to pay it. They're a licensed doctor. That's just one of the powers of their position. If an insurance company thinks a doctor is committing fraud, they can haul them in front of the medical licensing board and make them justify their diagnoses and treatments. Sane countries simply do not allow insurance companies to arbitrarily deny coverage for non-experimental, non-cosmetic medical treatment. If a doc sets a broken arm, insurance isn't even allowed to try and weasel their way out of covering it.
Most medical systems around the world work like this - by simply trusting the judgement of state licensed physicians. They do this, and the sky doesn't fall. And we're the ones stuck with the most expensive medical system on the planet.
Brian Robert Thompson, the serial killer that murdered 40,000 innocent people, did so by overruling doctors for profit by denying life saving medical care. In most countries his actions would have been a national scandal that would have seen him in a cell for the rest of his life. He was a mass murderer personally responsible for a dozen 9/11s. He literally dwarfed the body count of Osama bin Ladin.
You didn't disprove my statement.
To disprove it, you would have to claim that these "sane countries" do not deny any life-saving treatment, thus never taking life. Yet every single one of them has limitations in their services. They're replacing the insurance denial with a system-level denial by means of a narrow scope of provided services. Insurance can't deny what's never provided.
So, for clarity, are you claiming that these "sane" healthcare systems never let people die due to treatment that is too expensive?
I know you're trying to cope with your bloodlust by dehumanizing him as much as possible. But this sort of logic makes anyone with a dollar in their pocket into a murderer. It's insane, and you know it.
You're just classist when it comes to your views on violence. You don't actually care about human death and suffering; you only care about optics. You're perfectly happy with someone murdering tens of thousands of people as long as they wear a suit and use a pen as their murder weapon. Sorry, but if you concoct an insurance system that is deliberately designed to remove people from the life-saving care that they are legally entitled to receive as part of their insurance plan? If you deliberately design a Kafkaesque nightmare literally designed to make people die of their conditions before they're able to navigate through all the hurdles you place in their path? If you do all of this just to drive your stock price higher? You are every bit as much a murderer as any psychopath that carves people apart with a knife.
And no, this scarcity mentality is bullshit. Yes, there are always some novel, experimental, and ridiculously expensive treatments that need to be denied for cost reasons. But no system, private or public, covers those, so there's no point considering them for this discussion. But bog-standard well-established treatment do not need to be rationed. No one is going on chemotherapy just for fun. You absolutely can have a system where no one dies from lack of affording standard well-established medical treatments. The US is the outlier here. The rest of the developed world doesn't have this problem; only us. Yet you're here, having gouged your own eyes out to willfully blind yourself, saying that you simply cannot see a way how this can be done!