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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (13 children)

"Liberal" and "libertarian" both derive from liber "free, unrestricted, unimpeded; unbridled, unchecked, licentious." In much of Europe today, "liberal" is associated with free markets, which is associated with conservatism. It can be very confusing, and so I've stopped using the term "liberal" as the general term.

As a technical term, when you're talking among educated people, you can use "liberal," but for a general non-technical sense, I've started using "progressive" to describe myself lately. Another good word is "left" or "left wing", but I think progressive catches the essence of the idea better.

I think unrestricted freedom is sort of a nutty idea, and so the original sense of the root word matches the nutty libertarians better, anyways.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

As a technical term, when you're talking among educated people, you can use "liberal,"

Not ‘round these-here parts. People get really mad at “liberals”. Which I find ridiculous, but then I’m a libcuck Dem apologist genosider. Or so I've been told.

By russian-sponsored trolls you ask? Nnnnno?

[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call people Russian trolls for having a different definition of the word "liberal" than you. Most online leftists use the term "liberal" to refer to bourgeoisie that support, intentionally or unintentionally, mega-corporations and patriotic nationalism.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most online leftists use the term "liberal" to refer to bourgeoisie

So they’re not Americans.

Which is fair enough, but maybe then they could not be all up in every thread about American elections? Because they don’t understand them very well?

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Laughing at the fact you are ignorant on the flaws we superceded when we got rid of Electoral Colleges in favor of Schulze voting for issues, not sycophants.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Sounds great!

*superseded*

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