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The Shutdown Isn’t a Stalemate — It’s a Power Grab. And the Media Are Missing It.
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Most fucked part to me is it doesn't even stop them; ICE is considered essential and therefore it gets to keep operating during a shutdown.
Do they get paid? The military doesn't. ICE still getting paid would be a little surprising but not really.
Good question. This is a case of me reading a headline to a paywall so I don't know.
Double checking, seems like they don't but they do get back pay when it comes back just like everyone else. Would not be surprised if they're more full of people willing to work for free than other sectors, though, as racist hate is a strong motivator.
That honestly is huge to me. Why the fuck the Democrats are not saying that ICE is snatching random people off the streets of this country and they are planning on making sure they don't get paid another paycheck until they stop doing that, and that's the hill they want to die on, I have not a fucking clue in the world.
My guess is still internal polling suggests this is the most popular message with centrists and independent voters, or something to that effect. But I agree with you, it's nuts that they still don't get that messaging fails overall.
The recent polls on immigration suggest otherwise, Americans overall don’t like this.
And it seems very unlikely that any of the ones who do like what’s happening, are potential Democrat votes.
I feel like it is complacency poison, and habituation of what the important issues and messages are. It's like, it can't be that bad. They can't just be killing people. And they can't be planning what they are clearly planning.