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Under the order, private businesses can choose to display signage indicating that ICE cannot enter without a warrant—thereby designating “their property as part of a city-wide network of community spaces that stand together in affirming the safety, dignity, and belonging of all of our residents,” the mayor said.

Johnson touted the order for building “a broad civic shield that limits the reach of harmful enforcement practices. It strengthens neighborhood solidarity and it reaffirms Chicago’s role as a welcoming city.”

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (18 children)

shows up to that movement with pitchforks

While we're on the subject, how DID pitchforks become the universal symbol of rioting and revolt? As a weapon, I mean it's decent I guess. You could certainly kill someone with it for sure, but it's not some ultimate weapon. A chainsaw certainly has more raw terror inducing imagery. You see someone with a pitchfork in a 1-1 setting, and you could fight them off. You could grab the pitchfork as it's being used against you and have a chance to fight back.

But a chainsaw? How do you fight a guy with a chainsaw??? Or a gun???

I guess what I'm saying is, if we happen to pass a hardware store along our march of revolution, could we pop in for a sec, so I can buy a chainsaw???

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Chainsaws:

  • Tripping while carrying a pitchfork is less likely to result in a fatality than a chainsaw
  • Chainsaws rely on external power sources before they become heavy abrasive clubs
  • Reinforcements won't hear you engaging your pitchfork from a block away
  • A pitchfork is lighter and longer, making it easier to wield and have a potential for higher force with lower torque
  • Chainsaws don't like being used on fluid-filled fleshy bits, which can result in a tangled nightmare bogging down your weapon while you try using the "stuck shopping cart" maneuver on something noncompliant and screaming
  • Pitchforks can be quickly shared between targets. Chainsaws quickly share bits of targets between you and anyone nearby

Guns:

  • Requires training
  • See issue about external power sources
  • See noise issue
  • Friendly fire

You could grab the pitchfork as it's being used against you and have a chance to fight back.

Push harder

  • ❌ Pitchfork: Long, unbalanced weight, gets stuck when embedded in a solid medium
  • ✅ Softball bat: Less cumbersome, well balanced, doesn't get stuck in squishy
  • Miracle Blade^®️^: Abuse as desired and Chef Tony will hand-deliver you free replacements, CHEESE CHEESE
[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Spears, and (pun) by extension Pitchforks, being long is not a draw back. It is a stabbing weapon you could take out someone with a baseball bat before they even get in reach to be a risk.

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spears (pointy sticks) are the oldest weapon. They might have been created by non-humans. They helped us come down from the trees and vanquish large prey with teamwork.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, would not the club be the first weapon? Followed closely by our evolutionary omgwtfbbqhax: the accurate and powerfully thrown rock?

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Not that they weren't used first, but rocks and clubs would not have allowed us to come down from the trees safely full-time. Pointy sticks allowed us to more safely injure and kill, while keeping claws and teeth at a distance.

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