1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
The tightness of the collar and his reaction to her saying is sus, especially if he didn't fix it. I'm guessing he did or you or the video would mention it.., but really? a shock collar?
This video doesn't show anything like what you've described. All I could tell was that the dog yapped at one point and... that's it...
Admittedly I have zero experience with shock collars. If this is a regular thing he does then surely there's more than one example?
I’m guessing he did or you or the video would mention it
Why would you assume that? I have no idea. I would be fine trying to dig up the rest of the clip to see context, although I don't know if I would succeed. Given his reaction I would be pretty surprised if he fixed it.
This video doesn’t show anything like what you’ve described. All I could tell was that the dog yapped at one point and… that’s it…
You can literally see the shock collar box on her at 0:13 when she turns away to go back to the platform. He also claims that she "clipped herself", when he wasn't looking at her and would have no idea why she suddenly gave a big sharp yelp right at the same moment when he reached for something off screen.
If he was telling the truth, he would say "I have no idea why she made that noise, she's a big baby" or something. That is literally the only explanation that he would have that even could be truthful. The fact that he even has an explanation for what happened that made her yelp means he is lying.
People on Reddit have also slowed down and brightened the footage, and it's very clear that she didn't bump herself or anything on any object, that just suddenly out of nowhere she made this sudden yelping noise and also changed her mind about wanting to get off the little platform and go walk around.
You can draw your own conclusions of course but I am not sure why people could see this and come to any other conclusion.
The reason I assumed that is because there are a lot of false narratives spun around this guy, so if there was more to show by his haters they would have shown it. I believe you for now, but I will look at this further. Part of why I doubted your claim is that Turkish people are really nice to cats and dogs, but that is a generalization, of course.
Personally, I take issue with his cursing people out. Turkish is the best language for cursing, but a lot of the terms depend on ableism or anthrocentrism ( I think it's called that.)
The ableism comes up when he just dismisses someone and their arguments.
I pointed out to him he's using the term "psychotic" wrong and that he's thinking of "psychopathy". I thought mainly to correct his English.
I'm a triple immigrant. I've had to tutor so many people in English with no pay that I both hate it and do it instinctually. Regardless, the mods jumped on me even though he agreed.
He learned the definition of the terms, it seems, but I think armchair diagnosing people with mental illness to dismiss them while saying you're there to educate has plenty wrong about it.
Calling someone a donkey cause they're being stupid, for example, makes no sense to me. Donkeys are quite smart.
Also, he let himself get distracted by Charlie Kirk's very deserved assassination, and by doing so let the media attention turn away from Palestinians being genocided.
I cannot, however, say whether his good deeds outdo the bad so that he's a net positive or negative for the world. Good and bad deeds don't necessarily cancel each other out, and I think evil is more likely to undo good than is the other way around. Such is the nature of creation and destruction.
I want to limit how much I think about each individual political influencer, so I apologize if I don't continue this conversation
Okay I thought about this, looked into it, scanned your clip some more, and unless there's more instances of something like this happening, this is a one huge nothing-burger. If there was more evidence you would have provided more evidence. There's absolutely nothing conclusive in this video.
Also ... priorities ... Why are you outraged about this specifically? There are plenty of animals including humans being abused off camera out there by non-celebrities. Venting online is one thing, but your account seems primarily dedicated to this subject.
I still despise the notion of political influencers, but this is what upsets you? Really? There is too much ragebait -- real or not -- on the internet for it to make sense to me that this would be what you care about. Does all suffering need to be: specifically on camera; solely with an animal you selectively empathize with; and exclusively that of the one leftist influencer I've ever seen mentioned in corporate owned media?
No, I refuse to let this matter take up any of my headspace. Maybe I will donate to a local animal shelter instead. Use my energy for that.
I still despise the notion of political influencers, but this is what upsets you? Really?
It's a perfect storm of things for me to get irritated about: Politics, plus someone being mean to some other entity that can't fight back, plus people in internet comments saying things to me that are objectively wrong. It's like a flag to a bull.
Edit: You can also see a green light on the back of it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbzsW86X4qA&t=9286s a couple seconds after the start of the video. Also, keep watching. Dude is a fucking psychopath. It's weird to me that people can watch these clips and not see it.
Yes. The point is that there's a box that's on the collar. There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
I mean you can either see this stuff, or you can't. Obviously you can't. Watch the YouTube video in my edit, and if after you reach the point where Hasan makes a little self-satisfied grunt after she climbs sadly back onto her designated platform after he mean-mugs her, you want to still tell me he is a non abusive dog owner, then sure, you're welcome to your mistaken opinion about it I guess.
There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
Did you forget that GPS collars exist?
This is the first time I've ever heard the claim that Kaya wears a shock collar and the first time I've ever seen her yip like that. What I have seen is Hasan picking Kaya up to cuddle her because she's a big baby, Hasan reaching over to check his phone when he gets a notification, and Kaya roaming freely when she wants and often choosing to lie on her little bed in the stream room.
It seems very unlikely that this is a shock collar that Hasan uses the second Kaya gets up to stretch.
Also dogs will show through their body language when they're afraid of someone or something they're doing. There is no tucked tail, there is no head bowing, there is no averting eye contact.
Watched the timestamped video and it's Kaya getting up to stretch then lying back down. Not sure where the alleged shock collar clip is from. Also the vod is from three months ago. When I searched for a Reddit post someone commented under the VOD, it didn't bring me to the post they claimed exist, but the first result just so happened to be the h3 subreddit. And the entire front page of the subreddit just so happens to be everyone reposting the same clips and claiming Hasan shocks Kaya and coping about him almost saying she wears a shock collar when he obviously wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if this was from a Klein fanboy who found an old clip and spun up a story about it being a shock collar to give Hasan a week of drama to deal with.
Watched the timestamped video and it’s Kaya getting up to stretch them lying back down.
He literally cuts to total silence mid sentence and whips around to glare at her until she gets back on the platform, and then grunts to himself and has to regather his train of thought to keep talking about politics again.
Y'all are fucked. You are precisely the type of people in some small town church who refuse to believe repeated accusations of sexual abuse because "Oh he would never do something like that, you need to shut your mouth. That's Bill you're talking about. I never want to hear this trash again." Precisely. I'm honestly getting irritated about it.
The whole rest of your message has literally nothing to do with anything. I really don't care where the clips come from. Watch the clips. If you don't see anything fucked up about them, I don't know what to tell you and I hope no one in your area is getting abused by someone you think is "good people" and you have the chance to strategically overlook it because you don't want your view of that person to get complicated.
>people suddenly claiming hasan uses a shock collar on kaya to keep her in her bed to look pretty on stream
>look inside
>years of streaming but somehow only one clip of this
>look closer
>clip is from three months ago and only suddenly started circulating in the last 24 hours, particularly on a subreddit that has become pseudo-dedicated to hating on and smearing hasan
>look even closer
>clip is being spread by very strangely defensive people who immediately resort to calling you an abuser defender because hasan "glared" at kaya and "grunted to himself" before regathering his thoughts and thats evidence of animal abuse???
I've seen your type before you're just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
I’ve seen your type before you’re just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
Hold on, I need to switch to my account with the better profile picture
You guys could give MAGA a run for their money lmao
"Kaya! Please!" as if she's doing something wrong, when literally all she was doing was gingerly stepping off her platform. And he says "Go ba--" and then corrects himself to "Stop!" (stop what?) And then, of course after she suddenly yelps for some totally coincidental reason, I guess, she puts her tail down, bows her head, and avoids eye contact. And y'all are all out there like "It doesn't look like anything to me."'
Edit: I didn't even do this on purpose, this was just where my YouTube video was paused, right after she tried to get off the platform and Hasan did his record scratch and whipped around, and she slowly turned around and got back on the platform:
The tightness of the collar and his reaction to her saying is sus, especially if he didn't fix it. I'm guessing he did or you or the video would mention it.., but really? a shock collar? This video doesn't show anything like what you've described. All I could tell was that the dog yapped at one point and... that's it... Admittedly I have zero experience with shock collars. If this is a regular thing he does then surely there's more than one example?
Why would you assume that? I have no idea. I would be fine trying to dig up the rest of the clip to see context, although I don't know if I would succeed. Given his reaction I would be pretty surprised if he fixed it.
You can literally see the shock collar box on her at 0:13 when she turns away to go back to the platform. He also claims that she "clipped herself", when he wasn't looking at her and would have no idea why she suddenly gave a big sharp yelp right at the same moment when he reached for something off screen.
If he was telling the truth, he would say "I have no idea why she made that noise, she's a big baby" or something. That is literally the only explanation that he would have that even could be truthful. The fact that he even has an explanation for what happened that made her yelp means he is lying.
People on Reddit have also slowed down and brightened the footage, and it's very clear that she didn't bump herself or anything on any object, that just suddenly out of nowhere she made this sudden yelping noise and also changed her mind about wanting to get off the little platform and go walk around.
You can draw your own conclusions of course but I am not sure why people could see this and come to any other conclusion.
The reason I assumed that is because there are a lot of false narratives spun around this guy, so if there was more to show by his haters they would have shown it. I believe you for now, but I will look at this further. Part of why I doubted your claim is that Turkish people are really nice to cats and dogs, but that is a generalization, of course.
Personally, I take issue with his cursing people out. Turkish is the best language for cursing, but a lot of the terms depend on ableism or anthrocentrism ( I think it's called that.) The ableism comes up when he just dismisses someone and their arguments. I pointed out to him he's using the term "psychotic" wrong and that he's thinking of "psychopathy". I thought mainly to correct his English. I'm a triple immigrant. I've had to tutor so many people in English with no pay that I both hate it and do it instinctually. Regardless, the mods jumped on me even though he agreed. He learned the definition of the terms, it seems, but I think armchair diagnosing people with mental illness to dismiss them while saying you're there to educate has plenty wrong about it. Calling someone a donkey cause they're being stupid, for example, makes no sense to me. Donkeys are quite smart. Also, he let himself get distracted by Charlie Kirk's very deserved assassination, and by doing so let the media attention turn away from Palestinians being genocided. I cannot, however, say whether his good deeds outdo the bad so that he's a net positive or negative for the world. Good and bad deeds don't necessarily cancel each other out, and I think evil is more likely to undo good than is the other way around. Such is the nature of creation and destruction.
I want to limit how much I think about each individual political influencer, so I apologize if I don't continue this conversation
Okay I thought about this, looked into it, scanned your clip some more, and unless there's more instances of something like this happening, this is a one huge nothing-burger. If there was more evidence you would have provided more evidence. There's absolutely nothing conclusive in this video.
Also ... priorities ... Why are you outraged about this specifically? There are plenty of animals including humans being abused off camera out there by non-celebrities. Venting online is one thing, but your account seems primarily dedicated to this subject.
I still despise the notion of political influencers, but this is what upsets you? Really? There is too much ragebait -- real or not -- on the internet for it to make sense to me that this would be what you care about. Does all suffering need to be: specifically on camera; solely with an animal you selectively empathize with; and exclusively that of the one leftist influencer I've ever seen mentioned in corporate owned media?
No, I refuse to let this matter take up any of my headspace. Maybe I will donate to a local animal shelter instead. Use my energy for that.
It's a perfect storm of things for me to get irritated about: Politics, plus someone being mean to some other entity that can't fight back, plus people in internet comments saying things to me that are objectively wrong. It's like a flag to a bull.
What a hypocrite. In the end this isn't some kind of moral, principled stand, it's just autism.
So, literally, your argument is that the dog made a noise and he got annoyed by it and doesn't know what happened at some place he wasn't looking at?
The only thing you can clearly see at 0:13 is that the collar is adjustable.
Edit: You can also see a green light on the back of it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbzsW86X4qA&t=9286s a couple seconds after the start of the video. Also, keep watching. Dude is a fucking psychopath. It's weird to me that people can watch these clips and not see it.
That image seems to not be on the video at all.
The point is that there's a box on the collar?
Yes. The point is that there's a box that's on the collar. There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
I mean you can either see this stuff, or you can't. Obviously you can't. Watch the YouTube video in my edit, and if after you reach the point where Hasan makes a little self-satisfied grunt after she climbs sadly back onto her designated platform after he mean-mugs her, you want to still tell me he is a non abusive dog owner, then sure, you're welcome to your mistaken opinion about it I guess.
Did you forget that GPS collars exist?
This is the first time I've ever heard the claim that Kaya wears a shock collar and the first time I've ever seen her yip like that. What I have seen is Hasan picking Kaya up to cuddle her because she's a big baby, Hasan reaching over to check his phone when he gets a notification, and Kaya roaming freely when she wants and often choosing to lie on her little bed in the stream room.
It seems very unlikely that this is a shock collar that Hasan uses the second Kaya gets up to stretch.
Also dogs will show through their body language when they're afraid of someone or something they're doing. There is no tucked tail, there is no head bowing, there is no averting eye contact.
Watched the timestamped video and it's Kaya getting up to stretch then lying back down. Not sure where the alleged shock collar clip is from. Also the vod is from three months ago. When I searched for a Reddit post someone commented under the VOD, it didn't bring me to the post they claimed exist, but the first result just so happened to be the h3 subreddit. And the entire front page of the subreddit just so happens to be everyone reposting the same clips and claiming Hasan shocks Kaya and coping about him almost saying she wears a shock collar when he obviously wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if this was from a Klein fanboy who found an old clip and spun up a story about it being a shock collar to give Hasan a week of drama to deal with.
He literally cuts to total silence mid sentence and whips around to glare at her until she gets back on the platform, and then grunts to himself and has to regather his train of thought to keep talking about politics again.
Y'all are fucked. You are precisely the type of people in some small town church who refuse to believe repeated accusations of sexual abuse because "Oh he would never do something like that, you need to shut your mouth. That's Bill you're talking about. I never want to hear this trash again." Precisely. I'm honestly getting irritated about it.
The whole rest of your message has literally nothing to do with anything. I really don't care where the clips come from. Watch the clips. If you don't see anything fucked up about them, I don't know what to tell you and I hope no one in your area is getting abused by someone you think is "good people" and you have the chance to strategically overlook it because you don't want your view of that person to get complicated.
>people suddenly claiming hasan uses a shock collar on kaya to keep her in her bed to look pretty on stream
>look inside
>years of streaming but somehow only one clip of this
>look closer
>clip is from three months ago and only suddenly started circulating in the last 24 hours, particularly on a subreddit that has become pseudo-dedicated to hating on and smearing hasan
>look even closer
>clip is being spread by very strangely defensive people who immediately resort to calling you an abuser defender because hasan "glared" at kaya and "grunted to himself" before regathering his thoughts and thats evidence of animal abuse???
I've seen your type before you're just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
Hold on, I need to switch to my account with the better profile picture
You guys could give MAGA a run for their money lmao
"Kaya! Please!" as if she's doing something wrong, when literally all she was doing was gingerly stepping off her platform. And he says "Go ba--" and then corrects himself to "Stop!" (stop what?) And then, of course after she suddenly yelps for some totally coincidental reason, I guess, she puts her tail down, bows her head, and avoids eye contact. And y'all are all out there like "It doesn't look like anything to me."'
Edit: I didn't even do this on purpose, this was just where my YouTube video was paused, right after she tried to get off the platform and Hasan did his record scratch and whipped around, and she slowly turned around and got back on the platform:
Did you watch my YouTube video with the mean mugging?