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Encrypted email provider alternatives to ProtonMail (lemmy.today)

submitted 1 week ago by elkien@lemmy.today to c/privacy@europe.pub

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I've been a ProtonMail user for 6 years already but must admit that I'm one of those that is not liking the direction the company is taking and find it worrying, specially now that they plan to launch an office suite that I don't need or want.

I run most of my cloud services self-hosted except email but I'm not fully ready (hardware & software - wise) to admin my own encrypted email server although I don't discard I'll do so in the future. I already know Tuta and it's defo another option but my ideal one should be one that could be used directly with email clients like Thunderbird (I don't mind managing my own GPG keys) so I see Tuta as the retreat option.

So, any ideas for a reliable encrypted email provider other than self-hosting?

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I would echo others advice to avoid self-hosting emails, as it's just impractical and frankly just won't work properly for reasons you can't control.

We far as mail providers go, I don't know if mailbox.org meets your requirements for "encrypted", but have a look at them.

[–] elkien@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mine concern with self-hosting is on how unpractical it will become overtime, I self host already several services but I'm sort of aware that going the route of self-hosting with regards to email it's going to involve being a bit more hands-on.

Thanks for the heads-up on Mailbox.org, looks interesting and it's good see another European service on this space. Wished they offered an option for Email-only (with contacts maybe as long as I can sync them with my server) with higher storage capacity. From their website the bigger capacity plans include and online drive and an office suite, things I already have solutions for I don't want/need a third-party to be in charge of.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The impracticality of mail self-hosting has nothing to do with the actual host, or the service on the host. Those are like any other service. It's about getting others (Google, yahoo, whoever) to accept emails from you and not consider it spam. If they stop accepting mail from you, or never even start, you can't even do much about it. You might have to write individual requests for basically every major mail host. Mails will fail to send, a lot. So it's not up to you to fix this when it doesn't work, you realy on them to white list you. It's just not gonna work.

As for Mailbox: the "standard" mail plan includes a very small drive-like storage (5 GB I think?), but it's mostly mail storage (10 GB) and you can add on as many GB as you like (0.20 € each I think).

[–] elkien@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Cool, I may test their basic plan and see how it goes. And yeah, I'm aware of the issue of email servers being blacklisted, I indeed did the experiment before moving to Proton and experienced precisely that.