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Here, my summary of key features and decisions of Guix:

  1. Guix is a package manager that can (optionally) run on top of Linux distributions or other POSIX systems, like cargo, pip, conda or Conan. In difference to the pip and cargo package managers, it is language-agnostic, supports many different build systems and languages, and features around 29000 packages now.
  2. Guix allows to define a fully reproducible system. This works by using a declarative language for immutable version-controlled package descriptions, and by deriving any software from package definitions and a fixed version (commit hash) of the source code. In that, it is similar but much stricter than Nix and NixOS. The key point is that any software built, and all its dependencies, go back to unambigously, immutable versions of source code and build recipes - and all inputs to the system are open source and can be reviewed.
  3. Important for programming, this can also define isolated build and development environments, like Python's venv, but also Docker containers. This means that Guix can be used to develop, build, package, and deploy software, very much like Snap packages. And that's independent from the distribution you work in, very much like pip or cargo are independent from the system you work in. (And yes, it supports Rust!).
  4. This allows it, and also makes it technically possible, that any software package can be re-built and run years later. To make this legally possible, the official distribution of Guix also demands all components to be open source (FOSS). This is also a key difference to NixOS and non-free forks of Guix, which allow non-free binary packages, but sacrifice reproducibility. (To illustrate: If you have a binary, proprietary scanner driver in NixOS, and the owning company practices planned obselescence and decides that you should buy their new hardware, and pulls that driver, you are out of luck. In Guix, this can't happen.) (Note that as your own private conponents, you can define any package you like, you can also distribute your definitions as a complement to GNU Guix. Non-free packages for Guix do exist, in the same way as you can buy and run Steam Games software for Linux. Such non-free software just can't become part of the official Guix distribution, just like Amazon or Apple can't sell their non-free software via Debian or the Linux kernel project (or, for that matter, Apple has no obligation to market and distribute, say, Oracle products).
  5. All inputs being open source also means that any software component can be reviewed, that mis-features such as privacy-invasive behaviour can be removed, and that it is hardly possible to hide malware in the system. Because this also applies recursively to all compilers and build tools, this solves also Thompson's "Trusting Trust" problem. In fact, the whole system can be build from a 512 byte binary root (called MER). (Interestingly, that level of user control gets a lot of hate online -- certain companies don't seem to like it).
  6. Because it would take too long to build every user package from source every time, the produced packages are normally cached (while their correct binary content can be easily verified).
  7. The declarative description language for the packages is a well-defined, established, minimalist language called Scheme. This is a member of the Lisp family of languages. That Lisp is very well suited for declaratively building and configuring large systems has been proven with GNU Emacs, whose software, but more importantly, whole user configuration, is written in Emacs Lisp.
  8. The Scheme implementation used is called Guile. It has especially good support for the POSIX environment and has also much better-than-average interactive debugging capabilities compared to other Scheme implementations.
  9. Also worth noting is that the Guix project has superb online documentation. This is a practical advantage compared to Nix.

As example: you are on Debian stable and quickly want to try a recent version of the kakoune editor (as kakoune is in ongoing development): They are available under the Guix package manager. Just

guix install kakoune

and bang you have it!

How it works:

https://codeberg.org/guix/guix#headline-4

Manual:

https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Installation.html

Also informative for using Guix just as a package manager:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Guix

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[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago (15 children)

This seems like a good thing. I don't know if it will go anywhere, or be practical, but I hope so.

I can immediately tell its not for me though. Scheme/Guile is like trying to read the matrix for me. People have tried to explain it to me. Tutorials have tried to explain it to me. It just doesn't fit my brain. My brain does not fit it. I have similar issues with Nix's syntax. I have tried to immerse myself in it. I ran NixOS for a month. I came out understanding even less than I did before I went in.

Someday, I have to assume, there will be a similarly functional tool that uses some syntax my brain is capable of comprehending. Json, typescript, python, toml, even yaml, I don't care. Those already fit in my brain, at least.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (14 children)

It is really not that difficult, more like getting used to it.

Basically,

b = atan(x, y)

transforms to

(define b (atan x y))

or, if b is in a local scope,

(let ((b (atan x y))
       ; local expressions 
       )

For functions, say we have in Python:

 def square(x):
       return x * x

This becomes:

(define (square x)
       (* x x))

because the last expression in a function becomes its return value (and "*" is just a function name).

The other key thing is the functional style - but other languages have picked up that, too. In fact, Python has now at least a dozen characteristics that became first popular with lisps.

For example,

a = k if cond else j

is not that different from

(define a (if cond k j))
[–] ghodawalaaman@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago

Wow thanks for the mini tutorial :)

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