this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2025
174 points (98.9% liked)

PC Gaming

12982 readers
443 users here now

For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki

Rules:

  1. Be Respectful.
  2. No Spam or Porn.
  3. No Advertising.
  4. No Memes.
  5. No Tech Support.
  6. No questions about buying/building computers.
  7. No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
  8. No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
  9. No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
  10. Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

A shame imo

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] uymai@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

Hmph, I assumed a cheaper oled model would be introduced, or maybe hold off until whatever new version they release

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 19 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

until whatever new version they release

I suspect it will be a while before we see Steam Deck 2.0. The Steam Deck is plenty strong for what it needs to be, and the AI bubble means components are not inexpensive.

Also, for anyone who doesn’t know, if you have a gaming PC you can install Moonlight on your Deck and Apollo (or Sunshine) on your PC and stream the PC to the Deck. As long as you have WiFi 6 or 6e you should have minimal latency, and you can get significantly better graphics and battery life on the Deck. Really makes gaming in bed or on the couch even better!

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Steam also has a built-in streaming feature that doesn't require any additional software.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yep! And Steam Link is fine, but Moonlight/Apollo gives you more options and, in my experience, better quality.

So for example I can tell Moonlight to have Apollo send 1440p to the Steam Deck, so that after chroma subsampling I still end up with an entirely unique pixel for each on the Deck. That alone makes things look more crisp. I can also have Apollo set up such that my PC uses Moonlight as the only display when I’m using it.

(There are far more options I haven’t really dug into.)

[–] subignition@fedia.io 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Does that cause problems with rendering small text?

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 7 hours ago

I haven’t noticed any, but maybe? Very fine details can get combined, so it’s possible. But I’ve been playing Diablo 4 that way recently and haven’t complained.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

after chroma subsampling

Cool info, but I'm not sure about this part. Do you mean downsampling instead? Because chroma subsampling doesn't make sense in this context.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

In 4:2:2 subsampling (or lower), information is lost. It’s not much information, but if I’m streaming 1280x800 or 1280x720, each pixel is partial defined by the ones around it.

If I stream 2560x1440, when reduced to 1280x720 each pixel is the combination of those 4 subsampled pixels. Meaning each individual pixel is independent from its neighbors.

It doesn’t sound like it should mean much, and maybe I’m wrong entirely about the reason for the lower detail when streaming 1280x800, but the difference was apparent to me (at least when I tested it with Cyberpunk 2077). I could very well be wrong, I’m not an expert. There could be other causes. But either way streaming at 1440p looks better on the 1280x800 screen than streaming 1280x800. (Except with 1440p the aspect ratio means small black bars at top and bottom).

Now that I think about it, I might be able to turn off the subsampling in the stream. Might be a good way to test it if I can.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)