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[–] BeUnique@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Why the fuck does nobody know the difference between loose and lose anymore? I swear this wasn't a thing that was commonly confused a few years back.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's the least of the grammatical problems in that post.

"We can't say how much pissed we are because you would see how greed we really are."

:eyetwitch:

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, I just assumed that English wasn't the writers first language.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If only someone could invent some kind of computerised grammar checking utility. ;)

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You clearly aren't from an "english is the third language" country. I would not write like that but also I didn't notice the grammar errors until they were pointed out, my brain filtered them through.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"filtered them through" < "allowed them through, unfiltered" 🙇🏼‍♂️

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

However you wanna describe it, the point is that we tend to look for the meaning behind the words because we are used to hearing badly spoken English.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You do recognize the difference, though, regardless of "however [I] wanna describe it", yes? 😅

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I did intend to say that I filtered the grammatical errors through, meaning that my brain was reading the pure meaning. You said that I allowed the errors through unfiltered, which is incorrect in my interpretation of the sentence since that would imply I would not be able to parse the meaning correctly, having to deal with grammar mistakes.

Think about it, if you try to eat a porridge with chunks, you need to do extra effort processing the chunks through, hey spend time with them. But if you filter the chunks through, you can process the porridge faster. So no, your correction is incorrect actually, I meant what I said.

It's not that deep though, which is why I said that it really doesn't matter how you want to describe it.

PD: Also, the way you formed that sentence is annoying. Why don't you explain the difference yourself instead of expecting others to do all the legwork in a conversation? You ask if I recognise THE difference, but there are many differences between those sentences in a given context, it depends on how you interpret it. It's low key rude.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're certainly allowed to feel your feelings, though they don't change the simple fact that "filtering" by not filtering is literally impossible.

Also, the aforementioned difference is "lose" vs. "loose", fellow anon. Try not to knot your knickers this time. 😅🙃

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

~~You are not understanding my sentence. I said that my brain was filtering the grammar errors for me.~~

~~Your statement is correct but the brain IS filtering stuff for you, all the time. Every sensory signal is filtered through your subconscious mind before it reaches your conscious mind.~~

~~Saying that the brain filters grammar errors is a completely correct statement, I'm really not getting why you are saying that you can't filter stuff by not filtering them, it's a correct statement but it just doesn't apply.~~

~~Your written tone is very condescending for someone that is missing the original point, come on.~~

Oh my god, I think I finally got your comment. You meant that the sentence "filtered it through" is incorrect for the intent of filtering something, the world "through" should be eliminated. Yes? Because filtering something through is letting it in little by little, while my intent was to say that the errors weren't being let in since they were filtered subconsciously. That was what you meant?

Please do confirm if this was your original intent, I'm very confused. If it was low key damn you for not being more clear but also sorry for misunderstanding and making a mountain out of a molehill (I think I used this idiom correctly).

This is far too long to spend on a cheeky comment made in passing, friend. Maybe take a walk, or at least a breath? 😅🤪

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a lot of stuff where native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language later in life, though. Not just with English.

It's vs. its is a classic, which is written very differently in many other languages. I suspect they mix them up less when they switch to English.

[–] Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's/its is also common mistake with non-native speakers.

The really obvious one is using of instead of instead of have. Would of. Should of. Could of. From would've, should've, could've. Non-native speakers will rarely if ever make that mistake.

Oh, yes! That's a much better example, thanks.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Non-native speakers tend to make mistakes with "its" vs "it's" because they learn that in English the rule for when to after a "subject" put an apostrophe followed by an "s" is when you're talking about something that subject has, but this case is an exception to that rule since " it " followed " 's " stands for " it is " whilst talking about something that " it " has is written " its ".

I mean, you can memorize there's an exception to the rule for this case, but if you're not paying enough attention when writting it's easy to make a mistake by unthinkingly following the rule as usual even though in this case it doesn't apply, and even if you re-read the text to check if it's alright, it's easy to miss it because you kinda have the right meaning in your mind so you read what you meant to write rather than what you wrote plus they're both valid forms so neither stands out as a spelling mistake even when misused.

[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Also a lot of folks just won't bother with' especially on mobile

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hear me out:

Id rather see mistakes like this than

  • three
  • sus
  • bullets

And not just bullets, but also other obvious signs of AI slop — emdash included.

Would you like me to-

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Mac@mander.xyz -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I dont usually bother typing apostrophes on mobile. Youll only see them from me when ive selected the recommended word while typing.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, so you're confidently part of the fucking problem, I guess. 🙄

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, it's worse than it seemed.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok, but it's not that hard, bro.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I appreciate how someone can complain about AI-speak and immediately refuse to make their text readable by humans.

“Why would I make “ive” easier to read?”

Not a lot of reflection in this one.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I didn't say it was hard, bro.
My comment was not a reading comprehension test, yet you failed.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, so you're just an arsehole. Bye.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you came to my comment, cold-criticized me for something you made up in your own head, and im the asshole for pointing it out to you?

Then you decide to call me names and leave?

lol classic

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

It reads like it's written badly as a joke to me.

[–] TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know, but a lot of people in this thread seem to suggest that it's them not being a native speaker that's the problem.

In my experience it's actually the opposite, so many native speakers mess up things like your/you're, it's insane. Well, any time something is off about the English grammar on the internet, we blame the American education system.

Sometimes it's funny, though. Like "for all intensive purposes".

The thing is, it's not a "bone apple tea" moment, having only heard it vs reading. It's a single word, and a fairly simple thing to memorize the difference between "fail/forget" and "release/relaxed/wobbly", but... people are generally pretty stupid, and the truth is scary, so here we are. 🥲

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

idk I always have a lil trouble with it and have to do a double take when writing it. it's just so ingrained that oo makes the u sound so theoretically lose should be spelled loose because lose should sound like lowe's. that might just be me doe

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it's spelled loose, then we could end up with another Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

or Police police Police police police police Police police.

[–] Varesti@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If lose should be spelled like loose, then how should the word loose be spelled?

Why, loosely, of course.

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

my gut reaction was to invent another word, but I think the better answer would be to also spell it loose so you have yet another lead lead situation >:D

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

No, loose should remain loose, and lose should be spelled looze

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 1 week ago

I'm gonna loose my mind over this!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have come around to accept my occasional misspellings, incorrect verb forms, not really knowing with certainty when to use "in" or "on" and even mangled or mixed expressions whenever I write something in English (which is not my native language) as a way to show that the text was not written by AI.

PS: My personal top English-language mistake for a number of years was "later" vs "latter" - I genuinely thought that when I saw the word "latter" written, that was a spelling mistake and one time I even "corrected" a native English speaker on it (who should've pointed out my mistake, which I would've gladly accepted since I would rather be corrected than keep on making such a dumb mistake - as I did for a few more years - but this person was very middle class English).

[–] Reznik@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a non native speaker: where is the difference?

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

If a bolt is loose you might lose it.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Lose, with only one 'o':
Verb. To stop having something you had before, with a negative connotation. To not have success at game or competition.
Dictionary entry: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lose

Loose, with two 'o's:
Adjective. It can mean the oposite of either "tight", "attached" or "controlled". It can also be a verb, and in that case it means something similar to "let loose".
Dictionary entry: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/loose

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

People saying "women" while meaning "woman" make my eye twitch too

[–] left_is_best@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, it sure as hell was.

[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

It's probably a loost course.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It started happening to me after I degoogled my phone and predictive text no longer cares about sentence syntax. When I see it on a largely anti-google or anti-microsoft space I think that's a safe bet what's happening half the time

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Perhaps for a lot of people… English is not their native language? (Including me). Grammatical stuff will always be iffy, even in peoples own native language. I even mess up grammatical stuff in my native language, lol.

That’s not all… auto correct helps with everything these days and thus people usually don’t really think anymore about what is the correct way to write a word. I suppose.

Though, why do you get so upset about something like this? Just boils your blood for absolutely no reason. It’ll just keep bothering you while you can’t solve the problem. Good luck.

Maybe to non native speakers, or people not used to reading / writing, lose rhymes with hose. Loose is like look, so they must sound alike. /shrug