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I just finally got into this game and I'm completely shell shocked! I had seen it recommended before but ventured into other games without giving it a fair shake. As an avid RTS fan since Dune: The battle for Arrakis on Sega genesis, I've been slowly feeling more and more lackluster in the genres future prospects. I was a huge Blizzard fan and when Starcraft dropped I was completely thrilled that the development started to veer away from the Warcraft style into larger armies. I was a fan of Command and Conquer, Age of Empires, and others with similar style but it just felt.....off, maybe clunky is a better term to use (even though westwood studios was the same company that produce Dune to begin with).

I was worried with SC2's lean on commanders and "special" units during campaigns but was glad multiplayer stayed a little less "MOBA". I was especially excited for Stormgate but it honestly looks more WC3 than SC and I was let down from my own expectations (we really need to have industry defined sub-genres at this point so advertising is better).

Then last weekend I finally downloaded BAR after I missed all of the Steam winter sales and wanted something new to play. I'm completely blown away from what this game has accomplished and where it's going. This feels like the first RTS game I've played that was made by real RTS players.

There's so much functionality and cohesion going on I don't know where to begin or how to describe it. You know every game that you play where you have to download copious amounts of mods for quality of life or gameplay improvements? They just bake it right into the game. Ever just want to sit back and watch a huge 25 v 25 battle with 10k units on the board? Literally jump into any lobby you want and watch the chaos commence (8v8 is the most popular that I've seen atm). This entire week I've had my "BAR TV" setup where it literally non-stop plays matches in spectator mode (lobbies stay up where new players filter in and out so it will never stop unless you log out, awesome system).

There's so much I have to learn. I was Diamond League in SC2 and on BAR I'm getting completely torn to shreds by the easiest AI difficulty. It's such a different mindset you need with this game, the hardest opponent is yourself and keeping your head in the game. I've watched games where a team is up 30% in resource production over the enemy team but it all comes down to your moral. There's so much potential for proper strategies and there's no concrete "winning" path, it's all about your tactics and ingenuity. With a team game it's about support and functioning cohesively like an actual real battle.

I haven't felt this excited about gaming in a long time and I can't wait to see where this game goes, I've already started spreadsheets for comparisons and making build orders with counter plays. I think I've found my home for the foreseeable future and I'm definitely satisfied. For anyone interested I'll link some good videos and content creators I've stumbled onto, if you have recommendations I would love to hear them as I've only been watching a few casters so far.

TL;DR: BAR good, it's free so go download it.

Videos as promised:

WinterStarcraft - The biggest RTS battle ever?! Total Annihilation inspired RTS - BAR (Winter also has his own voice overlay on the game, I thought "Winter" was just a character/theme and I laughed my ass off when I heard his voice come through while playing and having one of his videos on in the background)

Drongo - The Best Strait Spawn Is Actually Water - Beyond All Reason (BAR) (the game has water units like boats and hovercraft facilities with it's own tech trees! I just really such at water atm)

FitzBro - Beyond All Reason Beginners Guide (BAR) (one of the first one's I stumbled across looking for more guides, not sure if there are better ones out there yet.

WinterGaming - Nuclear Terraforming in Beyond All Reason! (Insane Game) (I wasn't aware that you can actually terraform in the game till this video and it's incredible.)

Also in about 10 hours the 2v2 pro tournament is about to start! If anyone's interested I'll post a link but I'm not sure where it's officially done yet besides one older 1v1 tournament I watched the other day (not sure if it's the same channel or if what I watched was the "official" upload).

Edit: The official 2v2 Pro Tournament just wrapped up! It’s located here. The juicy parts are near the end but kudos to the streaming team for keeping it going for 8 hours! I really enjoyed the bump in professionalism and the overall flow of the event compare to the previous event I watched, their constant improvements is what’s going to be keeping me hooked for a long time. Also I'll include a link to the actual game download below as @gmr_leon@mstdn.social pointed out it was missing,

Beyond All Reason - Main page
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[–] flyboy_146@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Oh wow! Thanks for the recommendation. This game does look like a tone of fun (although I suspect a steep learning curve).

The 25 vs 25 video really impressed me!

I will definitely give it a try. 👍🏻

Edit: thanks for all the reassuring feedback. I'm looking forward to putting at least a few hours learning!😁

[–] Sprucie@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

The game is great and the learning curve can be tricky, but it has a whole load of scenarios which gradually ramp up the difficulty and introduce new concepts to help you learn how to play. I'd highly recommend checking out the game!

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