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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the same woman that managed to lose the easiest election in history.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yet the Dem party repeats all o'er again

"The party cannot fail you; you people can only fail the party"...

Damn it, with times like this, one can only wish for an ACTUAL revolutionary party...

After all, the Rep party originated as a 3rd party historically... against the Whig party and Dem party... yet it won against many odds , all in all.

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I mean, we had the Black Panthers, but they didn't check in with the FBI to see if that was allowed first soooo...

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago

Because she's out of touch with the left. Which is the same reason Biden will loose 2024.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She was going to win it. Comey dropped his letter saying that an investigation would be reopened right before voting. That probably cost her the election.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nate is just coping about being so devastatingly wrong about his "96% chance of victory!" prediction.

Besides, it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. The 2016 election should have been a wham bam slam jam thank you ma'am landslide win for the Democrats, on the scale of Reagan v. Mondale. The fact that it wasn't should concern you about the party's competence and/or goals.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nate (or rather, the 538 model). didn't make a 96% chance of victory prediction. It at most went up to around 88% right after the debates where Trump made a fool of himself and the Hollywood Access Tapes were released. But even then, Silver cautioned in an interview that Hillary's support among certain groups was soft.

I'm honestly not sure when the Democrats will have a solid win again. Recently the electoral college has tilted against us and Trumpian populism has taken grip over a large portion of the country. Fewer and fewer voters are up for grabs. It took the unpopular Iraq War for Obama, who was also a very gifted candidate and campaigner, to get a 7.2% lead. I expect a lot more repeats of 2020, where Biden only got a 4.5% lead despite Trump's poor leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic. A slightly closer race would have had Biden losing key swing states and the election.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was a different popular prediction model that gave 96% which got Mandela-effected into being Nate's.

Edit:

the Princeton Election Consortium had her at 95-99%

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I remember at least one model that was indeed spitting out ludicrous numbers that should have given any statistician pause.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Even if I didn't know a single thing about history, I'd still be able to look at what Israel is currently doing and know that it's wrong and we shouldn't be supporting it. Hillary is such a sociopath.

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

The neolib is eternal. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i really wish she would shut up

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, the more public statements made by people supporting a genocide, the more history will condem them, and the more ammo for the ICC.

When someone tells you who they are, listen. And write it down.

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all really wish she would shut up, but she's also the avatar of neoliberalism so in a way we need her around to remind us specifically of what we want to avoid. She's the England of humans.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

she doesn't need to keep talking and turding things up for people to remember that she exists

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But every time she talks dems lose supporters and that's really really funny

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

oh, look, a someone who claims to like coMMuNiSm but cheers on obvious authoritarianism and fascism...

nice work, "comrade" lmao

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

TIL disliking the DNC is authoritarian. Smells like freedom.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

oh, look, totally not what i said. what a shockingly disingenuous response!/s

i don't like the DNC, either, but i'm not cheering for them to lose to a fascist while claiming to be a communist, comrade

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

comrade

Oh shit, you said the secret word!

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

pretty telling if that's all you've got when your complete hypocrisy is called out.

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

case in point

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just FYI I'm 90% sure the guy on the left is a republican. Like fuck Hillary and all but there have to be better sources lol.

[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think he used to be but then went Independent but still leans conservative or something and the blonde woman who cohosts with Ryan Grim on Wednesdays and Fridays is also a conservative, idk there's a whole history/lore to that show but leftist journalists in the anglosphere are a bit scarce and Krystal Ball and Ryan Grim are some of the few. It's actually been really interesting to watch how some of his old worldviews unraveled in the course of their journalism over time. I'm half-expecting him to become a leftist in a few years if the trend continues.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

“It’s too complicated of an issue for any of us to understand.”

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much "if we can just ignore atrocity a little longer we can break through to a new reality where there is one fewer problem." Magical thinking at it's worst.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Breaking out of touch war criminal says out of touch things about war crimes. Doesn't understand young people dont like war crimes more at 11.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

War criminal