this post was submitted on 26 May 2024
44 points (94.0% liked)

Games

39818 readers
877 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

#SAVETF2

top 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is one of those things where Valve actually actively sucks and is actively ignoring a growing problem because the old game just isn't profitable anymore.

Expect this to get zero interest or time spent on it from Valve because they're knee-deep in trying to release a Hero Shooter (rolls eyes).

I have a lot of respect for Valve, but situations like this really need to make people step back and question how much Valve care about the community that uses the Steam service, or do they really care more about how much money they make?

The fact that they keep creating micro-transactions for a game that's been completely taken over by bots says "They don't give a shit, they just want the money."

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Let's not let Valve get away with shit just because they're "good guys" compared to other businesses.

Anti-consumer is anti-consumer is anti-consumer. Valve doesn't get a pass for being Valve.

EDIT: To be clear, I understand that they aren't required to keep supporting a nearly-two-decade-old game, but letting it become a place where outright abuse happens is a different story. If you can't control the abuse and you don't want to do anything about it: do the thing nobody will like but will solve the problem: kill the damn game already if you don't want to support it. That's what I expect to happen before they face this issue, they'll shut down official servers and make the game unavailable before they try to solve the bot problem for a game so old. Valve has made it clear for years that they don't listen to or give a flying fuck about the TF2 community.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you can't control the abuse and you don't want to do anything about it: do the thing nobody will like but will solve the problem: kill the damn game already if you don't want to support it. That's what I expect to happen before they face this issue, they'll shut down official servers and make the game unavailable before they try to solve the bot problem for a game so old.

Nobody would benefit from that. There's literally a huge movement on right now to stop companies from doing exactly that with the Stop Killing Games initiative. It's far better for Valve to just announce the game is EOL and no longer receiving official support but to leave it in exactly its current state.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know it's a serious situation and it sucks for anyone playing TF2, but every time someone brings it up I can't help but think about the video of the guy trying to kick a cheater and start laughing again

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] simple@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

F1! F1! F1 PLEASE! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every time I hear about TF2, it has issues with bots. Which is sad. I don't play anymore, but obviously there are people why enjoy and love the game to this day.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't played TF2 in a while (before f2p?), my understanding is that community servers were mostly fine and how we're mostly on random casual games?

At least this game has a dedicated server option, contrary to the other TF2.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The other TF2 does have dedicated servers now though. Unofficial but it does and comes with mods.