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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[โ€“] Warped@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit is known for it's use of bots. Bots helped Reddit grow in its early days. I'm not surprised that bots are being used now. As more people leave, I'm sure more bots will get used to give the impression of an active community. Just lie they did in those early days.

[โ€“] ikiru@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Well, to be fair, I do think that people have a point when they say Lemmy isn't ready or yet on scale of reddit to be equal competition. Lemmy doesn't have a userbase as large, even throughout all instances, and it also probably wouldn't be able to sustain if everyone left reddit and came here, which means less content.

But who cares? I certainly don't want all redditors to leave and come here. I do think reddit itself is probably sabotaging discussions of alternatives but there are plenty of real users who would say the exact same things. Corporate actions aside, reddit also sucked because of its users and the culture created there. Not all users add value. If those trolls, Right-wingers, and shills all came here, then it would replicate the garbage. There are some aspects of reddit I'll miss, or may sometimes dip into in the future for a transaction, like a Criterion film marketplace, but I'm otherwise happier here. If those things from reddit that I miss or want are eventually replicated on Lemmy then I'll never in any form go back to reddit. If redditors are happy with their shitposts and bot-populated or meme-speak comments on reddit but think Lemmy is the dogshit, then all the better.

[โ€“] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Trolls will troll. I for one am not going to hold my breath for people to switch over. I do feel that you have to be at least a little bit dedicated and willing to give up some convenient features of a platform that has been heavily developed for 10 plus years to make the switch. That is going to cause some vitriol, there is just no way around it. I'm not even mad at it to be honest.

At the end of the day, all I wanted was to have a place to talk to strangers on the internet without seeing ads in good faith. And thanks to Lemmy we have that. I personally don't care if Lemmy "wins" or whatever. People have to choose to participate. And they are! But millions aren't going to make the switch all at once.

[โ€“] stagen@feddit.dk 1 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't care to be honest. Let reddit be shit, all sorts of slander origi ate from there anyway.

[โ€“] hihusio@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if reddit admin are inflating upvotes on pro reddit comments or have an army of bots defending reddit.

[โ€“] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Neoliberals and saying "there is no alternative", name a more iconic duo

[โ€“] NotSpez@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The wheel of history will succumb redditors who refuse to accept that their system will pass just as all other before it have.

[โ€“] ViktorShahter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Spam-bots and strange links.

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[โ€“] bigbox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's too tiring going back and forth with these types of Reddit users. I gave up and just chill here

Years ago reddit put aside a cardinal rule of the internet: Don't feed the trolls.

It was worse off for it from a user perspective. It's been great for investors though.

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