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For those who are unaware: A couple billionaires, a pilot, and one of the billionaires' son are currently stuck inside an extremely tiny sub a couple thousand meters under the sea (inside of the sub with the guys above).

They were supposed to dive down to the titanic, but lost connection about halfway down. They've been missing for the past 48 hours, and have 2 days until the oxygen in the sub runs out. Do you think they'll make it?

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[–] Almostarctic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The 5 submariners chances of being rescued are very slim at this point but much much higher than the 500 migrants still missing off the coast of Greece who took to the waters not for a joy ride but to escape war and seek a better life.

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I understand, not that their lives don't matter. It's just that we don't pay attention to the ones that really do.

[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] MashingBundle@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Wow, it's confirmed. Honestly so grateful they had an immediate and painless death. Imagine sitting in complete darkness for 4 days waiting to suffocate.

[–] sternail@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean imploding? Because if they didn’t implode, being stuck in a sub for days, slowly waiting to suffocate, ist fucking horrible.

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thats my worst nightmare! Their toilet is just a tiny bottle so they're all gonna be pissing, shitting and puking on each other for days, arguing everytime someone starts hyperventilating. fuck that.

[–] sternail@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it sucks so much, it really can't get much worse. Imagine after probably 36h of absolute terror, you finally fall asleep for a while. You dream about something nice, only to wake up again in this tube of desolation, realizing that you reached your final destination.

[–] Double_A@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No. Chances are high that that submarine just imploded in a millisecond and they just instantly died. Why else would it stop sending pings and completely dissappear otherwise?

[–] Willer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I cant speak for myself but i think communication in general is a very well understood topic. If that fails you can just assume everyone is dead. I am not sure if the banging is real tho or if it was something else

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[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I'm a bit confused that this is receiving so much attention. What's so special about this case compared to all the other cases of people being lost at sea every year, besides them being rich?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Honestly, this case is somewhat extraordinary, in a deeply disturbing way.

First there was this amazing quote from the CEO who is missing on the craft right now

"You know, at some point, safety is just pure waste," Rush told CBS' David Pogue during an episode of his "Unsung Science" podcast. "I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question."

Second, aside from being made from questionable experimental materials, the sub was being controlled by an old, off brand xbox controller. There were numerous design and safety issues that were known at the time of departure. They kinda just did whatever in the F they wanted to. It's a millionaire game of Fuck Around and Find Out and they're not used to finding out.

Third, the damage waiver

The disclaimer, read out by CBS correspondent David Pogue, read: “This experimental submersible vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma, or death.”

A nervous-looking Pogue makes a face and says, “Where do I sign?” in the footage recorded when he went on the $250,000 (£195,000) trip to see the Titanic at the end of last year.

I get that it's just some rich idiots (and one of their kids) crossing the river styx, but it's not very often you see such amazing disregard for basic safety.

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[–] HenloHowl@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean, I hope they survive but I'm not holding my breath.

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[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Folks, the Titan submersible is a capsule that travelers are sealed into ** from the outside.** The passengers could be adrift on the surface, the air could run out, and they could theoretically suffocate on the surface. It's locked with bolts from the outside. Yeah, the 96 hours of oxygen could be stretched if the passengers conserved their oxygen. That is, if they are not a part of the debris field that was located near the Titanic. Each passing minute now is increasingly likely to change this from rescue to recovery.

[–] rhythm_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Nope sadly a 250k coffin

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"currently stuck" is a euphemism - they are dead. They are gone.

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[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really depends on how they went. Sudden implosion of the hull, quick and easy.

Floating around for days until your air runs out, wondering if someone will find you... Not so much.

[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read somewhere when air runs out you just fall asleep

[–] heWhoWearsAshes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I imagine it's prolly hours of gasping for breath before that though.

[–] TheYang@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

depends if they can get rid of the carbon dioxide.
if there's a constant low carbon dioxide atmosphere in the sub, they'll suffocate peacefully, as humans can't detect lack of oxygen, just too much carbon dioxide.

That's why you go moronic in a decompression in an airplane, body doesn't get enough oxygen, but can get rid of the carbon dioxide, and you don't notice you're suffocating

[–] cumcum69@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being realistic, they're probably gonna all be dead, and may never be found

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[–] derioderi0@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Short answer: no

Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOO

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I think they are gone. Safety regulations are a thing for a reason.

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[–] JunctionSystem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They're out of air by now. They ded.

[–] IceQuest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I think there's a chance they succumbed to hypothermia long before they ran out of oxygen.

[–] Blue@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Just imagine, these idiots spend 250k to sit in a iron tube controlled by a cheap offbrand playstation controller but won't spend any of their money to improve the world. Only satisfying their own ego and greed. I can't feel sorry for them, best I can do is hope that they imploded so they didn't have to suffer too long.

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[–] Skylake08@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the sub imploded hours after they lost connection.

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[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Probably not the worst way to go all things considered.

[–] sfo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

depends on if its o2 depletion or implosion

the second one is quick and easy. the first one would be tough. imagine dying breath by breath. most people aren't afraid of death, it's the dying part...

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That depends on if their CO2 scrubbing lasts longer than their O2 supply. Your body can't actually feel a lack of O2, the feeling most people associate with suffocation is actually your body detecting a build up of CO2 in your blood. If they can keep scrubbing the CO2 out of the air after they run out of O2 then they'll just start to get lightheaded, kind of drunk feeling, tired, and eventually just pass out and die. You actually barely feel it happening which is why O2 sensors are so important when working in poorly ventilated confined spaces. I know this first hand because I work with bulk liquid nitrogen and I've damn near knocked myself out a couple times via an inert gas cloud. One moment you're perfectly fine, then you just start to black out and it dulls your senses so much that you don't even have the brain power to process what's happening. Them running out of oxygen more slowly will extend that process a bit but it still isn't a painful process and the thought numbing effect from your brain running out of oxygen keeps it from even feeling particularly alarming.

So as long as they can keep scrubbing CO2 then at least they won't die a particularly "unpleasant" death. That is assuming the sub didn't just pop from pressure like you said.

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

At this point, no. As I'm writing this comment, they barely have an hour of oxygen left. Yeah, they're dead for sure.

[–] 0U714W@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A bunch of billionaires bite the bullet on a dumb, rich tourist expedition? Lol why should anyone care?

[–] Sans_outside@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They still have families and people that love and care about them.

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