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For those who are unaware: A couple billionaires, a pilot, and one of the billionaires' son are currently stuck inside an extremely tiny sub a couple thousand meters under the sea (inside of the sub with the guys above).
They were supposed to dive down to the titanic, but lost connection about halfway down. They've been missing for the past 48 hours, and have 2 days until the oxygen in the sub runs out. Do you think they'll make it?
People hating coz they billionaire π. Pray for them, hope they survive
I'm gonna go out on limb and say they're no longer with us.
Yeah I don't think you're very far out on that limb. The likelihood of successful rescue is extremely low.
I can't really believe anybody would spend $250K on a submarine expedition with the guy in charge of Ocean Gate, and his incredibly cavalier attitude toward safety.
I mean everyone says "omg they're crazy", but it's so easy to say that, and all of us have at least a few things that we'd be willing to do that an onlooker could point to and say "lol why do that when you might die".
There's nothing wrong with taking an informed risk, and it's really up to you what kind of risk you're comfortable taking. Most of these people seem to have a consistently high risk tolerance, and three of them were very experienced, so I don't think it's fair to call them "stupid" or "idiots" just because your risk/reward assessment doesn't line up with theirs. If that was their idea of living the best life possible, then that's good for them.
I'd also say that the majority of people in life aren't as happy as they could be because they're too scared to let go of convenience and familiarity. People turn down dream opportunities because it means moving to a different country, they stay in jobs they hate because they're scared of what comes next, they don't travel to places because five years ago someone died there, and they stay in unfulfilling relationships because they hate the thought of being alone or having to meet new people. So if you're the kind of person who basically spends their life on the couch with the same old people in the same old place eating the same old food watching the same old shows and you dream about what could've been, I'm not sure you have the right to lob criticisms at people who chose to get up and do stuff.
I get what you're saying about taking a calculated risk - like going for a bungee jump or paragliding or bouldering. However, the more you read about this particular craft the more you realize how much they ignored highly standard safety procedures and design. So I feel like the people criticizing are less saying "why bungee jump when you could die" and more saying "why would you bungee jump without a cord and pay 250,000 dollars for the privilege."
The idea here is that messing up due to unforseen problems and things that couldn't have been included in calculations is a "part of the experience" but messing up due to recklessness and disregarding required safety features isn't in my opinion. Daredevils and adventurers would first and foremost work on safety so that they can keep on doing their extreme stuff. We can go to the space, to the very bottom of the ocean, to many other places, and we can do these because we have been careful. The times when we messed up are usually when we could call it like the infamous rocket explosion of NASA, which the engineers did try to warn NASA before launching it, only for NASA to disregard those. In extreme adventures, safety is a golden rule and death is a rare possiblity, not something to expect.
Lol, we aren't able to do "extreme stuff" because of safety, we're able to do it in spite of that. We would advance much faster if we didn't value human life, full stop. It's one of humanity's biggest, albeit necessary inefficiencies. That value isn't the norm either - throughout history we've generally been pretty comfortable with the expectation of death in exchange for advancement, and we owe a lot of our modern knowledge and technology to people who suffered for it. You're taking a tiny sample size, i.e. the western world for the past 60ish years, and pretending that it reflects a precedent. To the extent that you need humans, safety and risk are always going to compete with one another, and human life is always going to be disposable to some actors.
Yea when I first heard about this I kinda just wrote them off tbh. The ocean is massive and moving, plus they're in a glorified, malfunctioning, soup can.
I've never heard of the guy, but I can imagine based on that description jeez.
"It's all apart of the experience" probably.
Maybe for a camping trip, but not this lol. Your already completely and literally out of your element.
I've heard somewhere it's easier and safer to explore deep space than to explore the deep ocean.
I wonder...is that only because we use probes? Or is it something to do with atmospheric pressure? Like I'm assuming water is heavier than space so even if you had a space suit on underwater you'd still get crushed or eaten by some big ass squid.
I'd love if a scientist could weigh in on this.
They should given cyanide pills to everybody in that metal pipe, like they did for all the missions to the moon.
I think a better question would be "Should they be rescued?". Billionaires are a stain on humanity. You simply do not need that much wealth for any valid purpose.
I have plenty of criticisms about billionaires, but saying we should just let them die is going too far.
After they've milked the rest of humanity to amass all that wealth, your solution is to spend more money on going to get them? They fucked around and found out.
They are presented with the same choice every single day to condemn people to die by hoarding their unfathomable wealth. Anyone of them could singlehandedly end all deaths from polio or TB, but instead every single day they decide that the idea of only being worth $2 million dollars is so horrifying that they'd rather allow the deaths to continue unabated.
How so? Seems like a shit way to die to me. Itβs not fast. Plus you are crammed in with a bunch of other dudes.
I guess once you pass out from anoxic brain injury, it might peaceful.
The only outcome we can be sure of at this point is that the company responsible for this mess is going to have to answer a lot of questions.
With all the news I keep hearing. I dont think they will survive. I guess thats one less billionaires in the world. Probaby for the better.
This could have been easily avoided by having a cable between the ship and the sub no? Seems like a sensible safety option...