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Reddit Admins Deny Subreddit Users the Right to Vote for Further Blackouts (teddit.net)

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Like many other subreddits, r/Finland is allowing its users to vote for whether or not they should a) reopen as normal, b) remain closed, or c) remain in protest mode.

However, the admins just sent them a nastygram essentially saying that's not allowed:

Your community sees well over 2 million unique visitors each month. Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense. There are a huge number of people that use this space now and who will in the future

Polling to close is not a viable option that will return a result that resolves this situation

However, mods can also see traffic stats, which show them as closer to 20k uniques per month. My guess is that this is a copy/pasted message and a whole bunch of subreddits are getting this notice.

I thought this was a particularly nasty new development, since up until now the excuse has been that we can't let these Landed Gentry dictate the state of our subreddits, but now they're explicitly saying that they also don't care about how the users of a subreddit vote either.

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[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense.

That's not how democracy works. If you don't vote, you're compliant to whatever the voters decide.

[–] davysnavy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think a company has every convinced me this hard to leave their platform. What a bunch of greedy idiots

[–] torafugu@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The way I see it is, when Relay's free version goes, I go. I don't care how many times they fuck up. If the protests don't work, I'm outta there.

[–] BlueForestDev@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

'deny the right' not sure the users had that in the first place

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They didn't, but you had spez out there just last week talking about community members voting on subreddit mods and policies, so it's good wording to hammer home the lie.

[–] BlueForestDev@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

dont we all know since Ellen Pao that it doesnt matter what the figurehead says? its all garble garble. see what they are doing instead

[–] density@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

For scale:

According to wikipedia the population of finland is 5.6 million.

[–] dandb@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Turns out that owning those means of production is the only way to be sure you don't get kicked out by some snotnosed wannabe dictator.

[–] originalucifer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

wont someone think of the chil...community!

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is it possible to delete a subreddit easily, just curious if its an option mods have ?

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit could probably easily just restore the subreddit after they do so and give the subreddit to mods that will do what they want.

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[–] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, mods cannot delete a subreddit. At most they can hide it by going private, or hide existing posts by "deleting" them (which still leaves them in the database and visible to mods and admins).

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for your answer. It makes sense from an admin perspective that some rouge mod can't delete a sub.

[–] slybird@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I have no problem with this. I'm upset with r/chicago mod team for not having opened back up yet. Protest or not, it is an important service to the people that live in Chicago. The mods shouldn't be allowed to take it away just because they don't like Reddit. If they don't like reddit's admins or policies they should remove themselves from the mod team.

[–] slicedcheesegremlin@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Then make one on Kbin/lemmy instead, or better yet a public-owned instance for Chicago instead of relying on a company who can take it away whenever they want without warning like they have done many times since the blackout?

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[–] SeedyOne@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

This has been an incredible lesson on what NOT to do.

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