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Admins, we're about to have a really bad SPAM problem when Lemmy removes captcha support in v.0.18 - You ALL have a responsibility to communicate back to lemmy devs to try to stop it. (tucson.social)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by th3raid0r@tucson.social to c/technology@beehaw.org

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Look, we can debate the proper and private way to do Captchas all day, but if we remove the existing implementation we will be plunged into a world of hurt.

I run tucson.social - a tiny instance with barely any users and I find myself really ticked off at other Admin's abdication of duty when it comes to engaging with the developers.

For all the Fediverse discussion on this, where are the github issue comments? Where is our attempt to convince the devs in this.

No, seriously WHERE ARE THEY?

Oh, you think that just because an "Issue" exists to bring back Captchas is the best you can do?

NO it is not the best we can do, we need to be applying some pressure to the developers here and that requires EVERYONE to do their part.

The Devs can't make Lemmy an awesome place for us if us admins refuse to meaningfully engage with the project and provide feedback on crucial things like this.

So are you an admin? If so, we need more comments here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200

We need to make it VERY clear that Captcha is required before v0.18's release. Not after when we'll all be scrambling...

EDIT: To be clear I'm talking to all instance admins, not just Beehaw's.

UPDATE: Our voices were heard! https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200#issuecomment-1600505757

The important part was that this was a decision to re-implement the old (if imperfect) solution in time for the upcoming release. mCaptcha and better techs are indeed the better solution, but at least we won't make ourselves more vulnerable at this critical juncture.

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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You ALL have a responsibility to communicate back to lemmy devs to try to stop it.

No I don't. Stop trying to brigade people to an issue. If you have an issue with it... Fork the lemmy UI code and make your own. Or stay on pre 0.18 code.

It's one thing to bring awareness to the issue. It's another to demand that I take action on something that's not only a non-issue for me (and likely many other admins of instances) but that the devs don't have to support. You're not paying them... you're not their mother. You don't get to force them to do anything they don't want to do.

Honestly the captchas that lemmy uses are terrible anyway. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2captcha-solver/ You can even solve them yourself as a browser extension... There's no point to them in today's world.

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Exactly, instance admins that want to keep CAPTCHA have two good options here:

Stay on 0.17.x until 0.18.y drops that re-implements CAPTCHA satisfactorily
Fork and modify lemmy to version 0.18-captcha, undo the commit removing the old Captcha code.

I totally get the project maintainers are stubborn but no one has a "responsibility to stop the devs from doing it". It reeks of open-source entitlement.

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[–] caron@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't have a responsibility to do anything. This isn't my issue and you can't force me to care.

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