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Luis Chamberlain sent out the modules changes today for the Linux 6.6 merge window. Most notable with the modules update is a change that better builds up the defenses against NVIDIA's proprietary kernel driver from using GPL-only symbols. Or in other words, bits that only true open-source drivers should be utilizing and not proprietary kernel drivers like NVIDIA's default Linux driver in respecting the original kernel code author's intent.

Back in 2020 when the original defense was added, NVIDIA recommended avoiding the Linux 5.9 for the time being. They ended up having a supported driver several weeks later. It will be interesting to see this time how long Linux 6.6+ thwarts their kernel driver.

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[–] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Phoronix thinks I'm using ad blocker. In fact I'm not. I don't have any kind of adblocker on my network... *sigh*

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Which browser are you using? Perhaps it has some built in blocking

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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone ELI5 what this is about? Why does Nvidia wants to access parts if the Linux kernel and why are linux kernel maintainers against it? Wouldn't it be good if Nvidia uses more open-source stuff?

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[–] true_blue@lemmy.comfysnug.space 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I use Nvidia's proprietary driver because the open-source Nouveau driver won't work with my display. Will this update break the driver, or just make it slower?

I'd love to stop using Nvidia, but I don't have much choice about using their proprietary driver until I get my next video card, or Nouveau starts working for me.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It probably means it'll take longer for Nvidia to release a driver for Linux 6.6 and might stop them from doing so. They'll probably find a way to circumvent this and continue to violate the GPLv2 the kernel is licensed under.

If your on a distro which gets a new kernel quickly it might be a good idea to pin Linux 6.5 so the system doesn't update to a kernel which the driver doesn't support. But whether that's necessary woll probably be talked about more once 6.6 actually releases.

PS: If your on a 2000 series or later GPU you might actually be able to use nouveau at some point, since there's ongoing work on an open source Vulkan driver with actually useable performance. Thanks to Nvidia it definitely won't work on Pascal and earlier.

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[–] librechad@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Just installed the nvidia-driver for my 2080 SUPER and my system isn't starting now. I'm using Debian 12.1 and after installing the driver, it crashes after entering in my password for my encrypted drive.

I will load up a Live USB and see if I can fix the issue. Any help would be appreciated!

[–] TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

Blacklist the Nvidia driver and un-blacklist nouveau. I'm going from memory, but I think if you can get to GRUB, you can append 'single' to your kernel parameters. That should get you into a system with minimal drivers loaded.

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