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    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 106 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    As an Arch user, whatever suits you.

    I installed Arch on my ThinkPad because.............................................................................................. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.................... I had an Arch sticker and I felt like I couldn't use it if I didn't use Arch.

    Everyone has some reasons for their favorite distro.

    [–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 75 points 5 months ago (2 children)
    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I don't think I've seen this meme format before but it's fucking hilarious. I love that kid's stance while hitting the bowl, he's ready for action.

    [–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    how have you not seen it ? it's been around for ages !

    but I agree, it's freakin hilarious

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I probably have, but was too stoned to save it in the long term memory...

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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (26 children)

    I'm too lazy to maintain an Arch install, so it's Mint for me. Long live Mint unironically.

    [–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Mint is one of the best versions of Ubuntu you could possibly use. They give you Ubuntu without all the forced snaps and other crap.

    [–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    At that point just use Debian?

    [–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Fair enough, but Mint gives you the more up to date base of Ubuntu and some QoL tools that Debian doesn't have. If you prefer Debian, then use it. I just feel Mint is better for beginners or people who want an easier time with less tinkering.

    [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Which is an excellent option if you're okay with Debian. It's a good OS but lacks some of the homegrown tools from the main Mint version. So, for beginners or those less inclined to tinkering I'd still recommend the main edition. Otherwise yes, Debian Edition is another great option.

    [–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

    Debian was good enough for my grandfather and it’s good enough for me. Seriously, running cinnamon desktop in Debian is my best option.

    I don’t need fancy, just no breaking

    Plot twist: am grandfather myself

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    [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

    Running yay every other day is all the maintenance I do on my arch installation.

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Exactly. My wife is a teacher and she runs Arch daily, knowing only how to run yay.

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    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Mint > literally all OS, Mobile or PC.

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    [–] llamatron@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)
    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    I love it. This made me laugh.

    But, as this month's chair of the of the Linux User Group for Letting Everyone Know We Hate Snaps (LUG LEKWHS), I want to clarify that we don't have a problem with Ubuntu users.

    It's Canonical we have a beef with.

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    [–] comador@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.

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    [–] Konstant@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)
    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    As an Arch user, both Debian and Pop_OS are better choices than Ubuntu

    [–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago (12 children)
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    [–] Zeon@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    Meh, I mean, Arch includes non-free software as well, so as a Trisquel user, you are all dead to me.

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    [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I just went full linux on my daily driver about a year ago after running a headless linux media server for a few years.

    Can someone explain to me why Ubuntu is so terrible? Is it not difficult enough to use or something?

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I’m going to preface this with saying whatever works for you.

    It’s not really about difficulty for most people.

    Canonical (the people who manage Ubuntu,) has made some unfortunate decisions.

    First, and I feel this has always been true, they approach their users with the assumption that they are in fact idiots. Microsoft has the same design philosophy, and it makes things much harder than it needs to be. (Some people may be idiots, but if they want to wipe the entire drive, that’s their business, right?)

    Secondly, Ubuntu tends snoop on you, and certain decisions by canonical raises alarms.

    Finally, fuck snap.

    Edit: if all you’ve used is Ubuntu, get yourself a moderately large usb stick and try a few others out. No need to remove Ubuntu to try a new flavor. Linux is like ice cream. Find your favorite and stab anyone who disagrees with you. I mean, Stan it. Yeah that’s it.

    [–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    snaps.

    oh, and that time that Canonical put Amazon telemetry in the default search application.

    oh, and how they just bundle up "bleeding edge" stuff from a year ago and ship it with it's associated bugs.

    It's been a few years since I tried but it just really turned me off.

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    [–] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

    Use whatever you like.

    But don't complain "Linux requires constant work" after it breaks in a couple of years, instead, be free to complain "Ubuntu requires constant work".

    Also, beware that it may be spying on you.

    [–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    To expand on the hate of snaps:

    They're a packaging solution for apps and dependencies. They're apparently quite comfortable for app developers to use too. There was a hiccup where some apps really struggled to run well as snaps, but AFAIK that was fixed.

    The common issues are snapcraft being the only repository and the methods of pushing them:

    Snapcraft is where the packages are stored and loaded from, and it's a closed-source repo hosted and controlled by Canonical, with no option to configure snap to use a different source. That has advantages for security, if you trust Canonical to vet and take responsibility for the packages on their system, but some people chafe at that lack of control. Compare to flatpak, where you can add arbitrary repos, so any distro vendor can have their own set of packages and versions they've vetted for stability and compatibility, but if I want a different version than my vendor maintains in their remote, I can use a different remote for certain apps instead.

    The second issue is that the classical apt system, which used to install .deb packages, was utilised to install snaps instead, so you'd run apt install package and expect a .deb to be installed, but instead it just downloads a script that runs snap install package and you get a snap instead, which is particularly annoying when you previously had it as a deb and it suddenly gets replaced. The argument here is a smooth transition to the "better" system, on the premise that snaps are better and the assumption that users won't care or notice. In some cases (the hiccups mentioned earlier) that just wasn't the case and people got frustrated, but even if it worked, some people (including me) take issue with expecting a deb and getting a snap - if I want a snap, I'll use snap, and if your deb is deprecated, offer me to switch instead of silently installing the alternate source instead.

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    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

    I use Mint, by the way.

    [–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago

    As an Ubuntu user, I would never say "Long live Ubuntu".

    [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Linux distros are just the new "101 flavors of Protestantism," complete with radical zealots who believe you will go to Hell for choosing the wrong one.

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    I use both Mint and Archbang. I'm half-dead to myself.

    [–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Arch is nice, I use it on my laptop, but desktop / daily driver is Debian.

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    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    As long as it follows Unix conventions it is the correct way to computer

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    [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I think I have like 4 different distros near me at any given time now that I think about it. A Debian one for Minecraft and some other game servers, my windows PC, a Mac for music stuff, and my arch laptop, I guess the steam deck technically counts too. Even at work I use all three occasionally.

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    [–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

    Long live Android!

    ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

    [–] _____@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

    me as an arch user when I have to use ubuntu for work: arthur-fist-clench.gif

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