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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

This is very smart of him to use generational terminology to engage with young voters. He's looking at trends on social media. Maybe it will work for him. His main obstacle is that most democrats are moderate and don't have a problem voting republican if they think the democrat is too far to the left. Maybe engaging with young voters in this way can help him get over that obstacle.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the only solution to this problem is subsidies.

Subsidies knowledge works well around the world.

[–] aregularbeaneater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think subsidies got us here in the first place. When the government pays for stuff it drives prices up.

[–] Cannacheques@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Depends what you subsidize, if you subsidize the learning, the work, the tools, etc. You'll also have a lot of young people already committed, having bought their own tools or paid for much of their education etc already, who will feel that they've lost their advantage in the job market due to the subsidy, and others who need it who may not qualify, who will be in a major pickle. At this stage at least, there's no one size fits all policy

[–] Ketchup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I found my people. On Reddit this would have been on r/BernieSandersforpresident and I would have been the lostRedditor for suggesting otherwise

[–] TPMJB@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's not minimum wage's fault, it's the government guaranteeing student loans. Tuition skyrocketed since then and has been out of control since.

Then with so many people being told "You have to go to college so you don't become a garbageman!" the requirements for most jobs increased as well. Manufacturing in pharma, for instance, I could take a kid out of middle school and teach him the job in an hour. Get fresh grads from college for a bachelor's degree and they still need an hour of teaching. But now the Bachelors is required for some reason.

Ironically, garbage man pays pretty decent for some minimal manual labor.

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[–] smac@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sorry, Bernie's full of crap. He's deliberately twisting facts to misinform. He's using today's highest minimum wage to calculate paying tuition at levels of 50 years ago, and trying to imply that people only needed to work 306 hours THEN to pay for college tuition THEN. That's just not true.

When I was working during high school / college, minimum wage was $1.50 / hr. That works out to $459 for 4 years of college education. Tuition at public institutions in the mid '70's was $1210 / year nces.ed.gov That's $4840 for 4 years at a time when my comfortably middle-class father was earning ~ $25 K / year. It was cheaper, but not by as much as Bernie claims.

Also, public colleges have always been subsidized by the state. You'd also need to look at the level of subsidy between then and now and whether we're choosing to subsidize less.

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[–] Vino@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

^ this tbhimofamilia. Back in the days, we didn't had folks shouting and asking for special needs just because of their skin color.

[–] nichos@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

College prices went sky high when the government started backing student loans, they should have never done that.

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