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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

So... now Framework Corp is selling non-upgradable hardware?

I dunno. Conceptually I want to like Framework. But their pricing means it is basically never worth buying and upgrading versus just buying a new laptop (seriously, run the numbers. You basically save 10 bucks over two generations of shopping at Best Buy). But they also have a system that heavily encourages people to horde spare parts rather than just take it to an e-waste disposal facility/bin.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

It will be faster than most next-gen laptops, and it's much cheaper than a similarly-specced Asus Z13. Strix Halo uses a quad channel 8533Mhz bus, 2 full Zen CCDs like you find in desktops/servers, and a 40 CU GPU. Its more than twice the size/performance of two true "laptop chips" put together.

Everything except the APU/RAM/Mobo combo is upgradable, and you don't have to replace the whole machine if the board fails.

I mean, if you don't need that kind of compute/RAM, this system is not for you, and old gaming desktops are probably better deals for pure gaming. But this thing has a niche.

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[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, the pc is upgradable. They explicitly said in the event that the desktop was suppose to be an actual desktop with replaceable parts as much as technically possible. Only ram is tied to the mobo/cpu because of technical limitations of the amd cpu

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

their pricing means it is basically never worth buying and upgrading versus just buying a new laptop (seriously, run the numbers. You basically save 10 bucks over two generations of shopping at Best Buy).

Maybe so. But the big difference is, you can upgrade iteratively rather than taking the entire hit of a new device all at once. So I can buy all of the individual components of my next laptop a few hundred dollars at a time over the course of a couple of years, and use them as I get them. By the time I've ship-of-theseus'd the whole device, I may have spent the same amount of money on that new computer, but I paced it how I wanted it. Then I put all of the old components into an enclosure and now I can use it as a media center or whatever. Plus, if something breaks, I can fix it.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This is a standard a370 mini PC at a high price.

There's Beelink, Minisforum, Aoostar and many others.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are they going to at least make memory modules available for those who want to solder their own?

[–] naonintendois@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can order those directly from chip suppliers (mouser, digikey, arrow, etc.) for a lower cost than you could get them from framework. Also those are going to be very difficult to solder/desolder. You're going to need a hot air station, and you need to pre-warm the board to manage the heat sink from the ground planes.

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