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[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wish there would be some good european LLMs for agentic coding..

[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

i found codestral. not as good as claude of course but it might become a viable alternative

[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Canada wants to know: why not zoidberg?

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[โ€“] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why am I betting bolt probably isn't going to be a viable ride service option for americans

[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

bolt is okay, or what do you mean its not viable for americans? why not?

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[โ€“] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Aren't almost all of these quite terrible?

[โ€“] faultybit@feddit.org 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder why you think so. Some like Peertube & Threema are definitely poor alternatives but I wouldn't say it's "almost all" either.

  • Deezer vs Apple Music/Tidal: Deezer has a great selection of music and recommendation algorithm. I've never used Tidal but Deezer is definitely better than Apple Music IMO.
  • Tuta/Mailbox.org/Posteo vs Gmail: Well, they all let you send and receive emails. Unless you're an enterprise user, I don't see what advantage Gmail would have over the others.
  • HERE WeGo vs Google Maps: Very recently installed HERE and didn't have any issues so far. This can be a bit location-dependent though.
  • Ecosia vs Google: Ecosia uses Bing/Google^1^ as its search index anyway, so the results are almost exactly the same for me.
  • DeepL Translate vs Google Translate: DeepL has a more limited selection of languages but for the languages it supports, it's the undisputed king.
  • Bolt vs Uber: I only used Bolt a few times while I was in Portugal and it seemed fine. Maybe this is also location-dependent.

^1^I think it's Bing by default but you can configure it to use Google in the settings.

[โ€“] nostradamnit@piefed.social 1 points 7 months ago

Aren't many of the mainstream offers terrible as well, in their own special way?

DeepL is better than Google Translate for the languages it supports. I find that it captures the context better when words have multiple meanings. Some features are paid, for example, translating a text to an informal context (Sie vs du in German).

It does not support as many languages as Google, though. Most European languages are supported.

Between DeepL and Wiktionary, I find I don't even need Google Translate anymore.

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[โ€“] amzd@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://delta.chat/ is also European but is decentralized unlike threema which means you donโ€™t rely on one company to keep the servers up or your communications stop working.

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