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And before anyone makes a cheeky "what do you need this for 🀨" comment, I'm a writer. I'm not going to murder anyone I promise, I just want to write a scene where one guy gets poisoned.

I need something that doesn't require modern technology to extract/produce, and would make sense to be avaible in a place with a temperate to mediterranean climate. The slower, the better. Does a plant or something like that exist or do I need to make one up?

Update: I looked into death cap mushrooms and they might be just what I'm looking for! Long reaction time, and being dried doesn't make them less toxic! (the scene takes place in midwinter so no fresh ones would be avaible) If anyone has more info on them, please do share.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was a theory a while back that Napoleon died from arsenic poisoning due to the damp Mediterranean climate causing the decay of a green wallpaper using an arsenic based dye. It didn't end up being entirely true but he may have been slowly poised by environmental arsenic throughout his life. Here is an article about it.

Arsenic is a naturally occurring element in the Earth's crust as metallic crystals or combined with other elements. Being a heavy metal, arsenic bioaccumulates. That is, it builds up in the body over time, so slow poisoning is possible.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

At work I learned that cyanide is actually very dangerous because it accumulates its effects. Like you have a little now and a little later, then suddenly you can't get up from bed so you call in sick. Its dangerous stuff.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

cyanide doesn't accumulate, it can be broken down in some hours (very small amounts of course). otoh many heavy metals do behave this way, maybe you worked with both at the same time

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[–] sabin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Source of radiation given to someone to hold in their wallet/pocket

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

don't be Don, don't be Don, don't be Don

Oh thank God.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Ricin was used in Breaking Bad. Fairly easy to produce and administer.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Alcohol is a very effective slow acting poison.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Thallium was pretty famous for this until its mechanism of toxicity and antidotes were better understood. Slow acting, tasteless, odorless, colorless, symptoms weird and mimic other things. Used to be used for rat poison but the risk of accidental exposure was too high. Requires late 1800s technology.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

I don't like where these comments are going.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you want long-term, look to the liver. Alcohol will destroy it over time, but so will viral hepatitis. Have you considered slow acting diseases like hepatitis or HIV? Or something intensely carcinogenic?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Mushrooms can cause liver failure too, depending on the species. Amanitas are an example

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know someone who drinks a few litres of gin a week. They seem impervious.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Just wait… they’ll die eventually.

[–] Barking@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Am not sure if helpful, or if this would be somewhere you could visit for reference.

The Alnwick Victorian poison garden is fascinating and perhaps even has ideas for you.

https://www.alnwickgarden.com/the-garden/poison-garden/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alnwick_Garden

Hope this helps. Am hoping to get to visit one day.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You could go for Paracetamol/Acetaminophen. The lethal dose is quite low and in theory low enough someone could poison someone else with it. And once symptoms set in people's livers are often beyond rescue and they die a very gruesome death unless we find a transplant organ in time.(And even then survival is not guaranteed)

And it's relatively save to use in writing as it is coated/mixed with enough bittering agent these days that it actually wouldn't work that well to secretly posing someone.

If you need something with a shorter timeframe Methanol is an option.

And of course there's always Dihydrogen monoxide-everyone who has even had one drop of it will die eventually but the time range depends on the dose. With very high doses people die in minutes,with medium doses (this is actually sometimes used by inmates to kill themselves) they die within a day, with lower dose after decades, but some die mere days after they ingested the mere last drop of it. Nasty stuff and very available.

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