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Skype was shut down for good today (www.washingtonpost.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by comador@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 179 points 2 months ago (5 children)

MSN messenger died for Skype

Skype died for Teams

We're not on a great trajectory here

(Yes Lync too, but everyone was pleased about that)

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

What most people don't know about the ouroboros is that every time the creature eats itself it becomes a little bit closer to being a turd (a consequence of its peculiar metabolism) so even though from an inside perspective the system appears to be in a complex mysterious cyclic kind of stasis, from the outside it is just more and more obviously a turd in the shape of a donut.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago

Teams died for Teams (New)

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Teams will die for Copilot somehow.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Teams

New Teams

Teams (New)

Teams with Copilot

Copilot Teams

[–] eth0slash0@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

You missed Teams 365

[–] Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They can all coexist in your desktop, just like outlook

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[–] MicrowavedTea 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Teams dying doesn't sound too bad either. Just hoping the next iteration isn't even worse

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Given M$'s track record, it definitely will be worse...

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[+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 176 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

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[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Hey, RIM/Blackberry's CEO went to mobile world Congress in 2010, 3 solid YEARS after the iPhone launched, was dominating and defining the smartphone world and said, "we feel touchscreen is not the future of mobile phones" and rolled out another hybrid touch/keyboard model like the 5 they already had

Blackberry was $150/share as of 2009 with the entire world in front of it. It's now worth $3.59/share.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Netflix tried to get distribution in Blockbuster and a partnership w/them and were told to fuck off …

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Blackberry and Nokia were so slow to react to the iPhone, it was painful to watch.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And then, to bring us full circle to OP, Microsoft made it's strategic acquisition of Nokia long after they had squandered enviable market share to Apple and Google 😂 https://www.theverge.com/2016/5/25/11766540/microsoft-nokia-acquisition-costs

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft has 1 massive disadvantage when it tries to enter new markets.

It has to deal with brutal cutthroat competition from its worst enemy: Microsoft.

Ms internal politics destroy almost all its successes, their politics are why theyve never really been a threat, for every skype there's a teams which cuts them off at the knees lest it cost a division head their chance at a promotion.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I personally blame stack ranking, invented by Jack Welch to justify cutting 20% of the company.

If you want to get mad, the Behind the Bastards episode on him explains why corporate America is what it is today.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

IMHO, the pandemic just allowed everyone to see how much better of an experience Zoom had over Skype.

I worked in an office where half of corporate used Skype, and the cooler sub-brands used Zoom. No one in the main corporate office was happy about using Skype. Microsoft had been neglecting it for quite some time.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft had been neglecting it for quite some time.

You're right but that's why they're idiots 😄

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Did they really? Microsoft championed Teams and its pretty accepted in corporate environments today, especially if they are already on Microsoft.
Afaik, Skype for Business was merged into Teams. Skype for non-business consumers has been virtually dead for longer. The way I see it, Microsoft let go of the brand, the value of which is questionable in this decade. When they bought it, I remember the rumors saying it was because of its voice codec, which probably got used in everything from xbox live to teams in the end.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Nobody uses Teams voluntarily. It's always imposed by corporate.
Skype was the term for skyping. It's like buying a social media that coined the term tweet and changing it's name to a letter. Stupidest shit ever.

[–] based_raven@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't get my head round this at all. Everyone used Skype where I worked, and it seemed hugely popular. By the time COVID happened, I was in another job, and all of a sudden everyone was going mad about this Zoom program. I'd never heard of it, but it just came out of nowhere and everyone on the planet was using it. How on earth Skype fumbled it so hard is absolutely staggering.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Skype didn't fumble it, Microsoft just doesn't know how to strategy. When they bought Skype, they killed MSN and told people to move to Skype, whereas they should've integrated the two to make the transition seamless. Then they had both Teams and Skype for Business at the same time by the time COVID happened.

They messed up on every turn.

[–] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

skype was way ahead of his time. The quality was top notch. MS fucked by changing the architecture from decentralized to centralized in windows servers - this fucked up the calls quality and it created an opportunity window for whatsapp, viber, etc...

MS turned skype to shit.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'll never get over MSN Messenger

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

great, now do teams.

nobody should have to use that ugly useless piece of shit for anything.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My company decided we don't need phones and makes us use Teams for calls. Every day I think about murdering the person who made that decision.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Same here. I made my bed with it though.

I have a "work phone". it sits at my desk. I'll answer it when I'm there, otherwise I don't get called.

I can't (pronounced won't) install any work shit on my personal phone because I run e/os and it isn't compatible with their policies. 🤷 oopsies.

fuck em. I've been giving them 4 hours a day for months now, after giving them over a decade of 15-18 hour days.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

My company used to have Slack and forced this abomination upon us. At least now I can plausibly pretend not to have seen people’s messages.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was dead to me after microsoft bought it.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It really went downhill from them on.

Skype was only good while it still had a native Linux version.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

On one hand, having been forced to use Skype, I’m happy to see it gone. On the other hand, they somehow made it worse and called it Teams.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I fell out of contact with a lot of people when they shuttered MSN messenger for Skype, so not sad to see it go.

[–] based_raven@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

MSN Messenger was brilliant. At the time I used it, everyone I knew used it. It was the go-to for communication.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm 39. So I've been around Skype since it came out back in 2003. Since then, 22 years later I didn't use it a single time. Never downloaded the program, app or accessed the webpage. 🤷

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I used Skype a couple of times - I was talking to someone overseas. This was pre zoom. It’s interesting that they dropped the ball, they could have been zoom.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I remember the "old" Skype, which was essential for keeping in touch with my siblings before we got cell phones. Once I got a phone, it was the end of Skype until ~2014 when I got a job where Skype for business was available. I still didn't use it because that application would sometimes crash if you just jiggled the mouse. It became a running joke at my workplace.

Clock into work, Skype crashed.

Go to lunch, Skype crashed.

Ran out of TP at home. You guessed it. Skype crashed.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Somebody send a gift basket to the Skype CEO, he's not doing so well.

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[–] ziltoid101@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I want to put Skype's corpse on a banner and wave it around to all the software that's currently undergoing enshittification.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

It’s sad… Skype saved my butt when I was stuck in Peru and needed to call for help in my home country. I had found out 1-800 lines didn’t use call credits

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find it funny Microsoft gave me a survey on my work PC asking about how I'm enjoying its products (I laughed in Linux, "how do you like windows customizablity" let me go off about KDE lol)

But back to the subject. Literally everything they work on seems to turn to shit

I wonder what kind of survey feedback are they usually getting? "Oh, Skypes cool but I really like Teams"

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[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can I guess that the American amoral capitalist company won’t have transferred my Skype credit?

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is Microsoft planning to release a viable replacement at some point?

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait, Skype was still around? I thought it shutdown a few years back

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

Story of the times, have a good thing then break it so you can replace it with a shitier thing. Then have the competition eat your lunch by making a slightly less shitty thing.

I found my physical "skipe" phone last week, dang it we could have had a bad bitch. But no, now we have fucking teams.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

For us plebs. Government (US) will still use it for years to come.

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