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Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I disagree. Lemmy is really lacking proper leadership. The current leadership while incredibly skilled and well intentioned really sucks at leading a project like this which is mostly because of their extreme political stances.

That being said, good riddance in this case. It's perfectly fine to miss out on some people and every instance has it's own right to moderate itself however it wants.

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[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Not speaking for anyone but me, but sometimes when people say they something is too political it really means too much "extreme" political views. Personally I don't want to interact with extreme auth-left or auth-right content. I think politely discussing why access to housing should be guaranteed by government, or arguing for lower corporate taxes or whatever, isn't what bothers most people.

Fortunately Fedi allows instances who are fine with it host those users, and I don't have to see it. And Lemmy -the project- isn't political, it's just software for which I'm grateful to the devs.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was almost gonna agree until the end but unfortunately, I really can't agree with the notion that technology is not political.

The project is political. The license they chose for the software, what they're using to develop it, how they fund the development of the project are all very political things.

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[–] jeena@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes exactly, I call myself very left but the minute I tried /kbin a thread about china from lemmy.ml showed up and there full of Tianomon Square deniers I tried to engage but just after half an hour I was almost done with the whole reddit alternative and was on my way to delete my account.

People are put off of extremist places and don't want to join them, think they are lost already to the extremists. Both online and in real life.

[–] tojikomori@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is difficult to hear but may be good feedback to share with kbin.social's admins and kbin's devs in the kbinMeta magazine. I don't want to see lemmy.ml defederated at this point, but it's a risky one to have on the front page. It's kind of nuanced:

Lemmy's devs have been running a successful campaign to recruit Redditors to use their app, and many Redditors have chosen lemmy.ml (the instance run by its developers) by default. A few of us have been trying to sound a warning about this, but it's muted amid the outrage at Reddit.

Lemmy's developers are often described as "tankies" but the word seems to be acting as a euphemism, as though it's just an eccentric subculture. The fact is Lemmy's devs are stooges for the CCP. They actively welcome its propaganda on their instance, and they've compiled apologetics for the CCP's human rights abuses including the Uyghur genocide.

At the same time, lemmy.ml is the primary instance for Lemmy, and an important support resource for instances that run on it. On top of that it's now home to a lot of Redditors trying to build their own communities there. For those reasons I don't think it should be defederated, but I think kbin.social might need a way to prevent the instance – or at least some specific communities – from reaching the front page.

For myself, I've blocked its china and technology communities, as well as a few specific users that I've seen post propaganda pieces there. I'm satisfied with that solution to address my own use, but your own experience makes me realize it still reflects on kbin.social to have that stuff reach our front page.

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[–] ClaySpears@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is funny how the only viable Reddit alternative I’ve found so far (here) isnt led by weird libertarian tech bros but communists lol

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm amused by the idea that what is functionally an anarchist technology has been so effectively moulded by Marxist-Leninists.

[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 10 points 2 years ago

Technology running on technology originally developed by the American Military-Industrial Complex. It is an odd mixture of influences.

[–] teruma@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

On the one hand, I hate the right's bullshit. But, on the other hand, there was some comfort in having the ability to keep tabs on them. If they pick a different space, it'll be harder to anticipate what they're planning.

[–] Wigglet@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They already have several. Vote, 8chan, 4chan, parler, telegram, truth spcial, pockets of reddit, and twitter now i guess. I can't think of as many leftist equivalents.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

frankly i can only think of hexbear and raddle as even remotely comparable "spaces"--and you'd need to be pretty online to even know what those are. left-social media is just not a thing in the same way as it is for the right and far-right

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that's so crazy to me, honestly. I remember the days when not a single ISP was willing to host Stormfront, and every website instantly banned anyone who was being a nazi. Now they embrace them.

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