I'm with the second guy. I'm not going to doom scroll through useless dating apps and talking to every woman on the street. I'd rather do my own hobbies and do my own things so worst case scenario, I'm happy with what I'm doing, best case scenario I get a SO, or reasonable scenario is I make some friends.
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Don't be mean. I promise to do my best to judge that fairly.
People who make getting laid or not their whole personality are people that I would want nothing to do with.
There was an interesting podcast the other day about raising boys in the current era when it seems like many of them are turning to far right grifters and manfluencers
When the vast majority of everyone other than said grifters et al offers boys nothing but contempt and prejudice, they make them easy pickings for the only people offering them something else, even if they're lying.
It's similar to the reason that a guy who never gets attention from women is likely to 'fall in love' and immediately develop a strong infatuation for the first woman to pay attention to him.
Funny. I always thought it was a camaraderie thing because I'm married. That definitely makes a lot of sense though because young men are becoming more right-wing and most women do not like that so it seems like that would be a big hurdle and maybe they just need to figure their shit out.
Male loneliness is real and multifactorial, but yeah its also self fulfilling. Rather than examine difficult societal reasons and address them, we fall back on tired masculine tropes and try to blame women for not being accomodating or whatever.
I'm trying really hard to not reduce the issue to "women won't have sex with me" but the responses are flooded with this general sentiment.
I think some guys suffer from mental illness and don't have support from the people around them and things like male privilege can diminish their perceived suffering. Even so, I rarely see men actually talk about it.
Like, only on places like 4chan people are brave enough to spew whatever shit's on their mind and I'll tell you that while they can be the minority in a lot of regards, there is something sincere in their unfiltered, crude language that really helps me understand it a little. A lot of it does feel like whinning about sexlessness, but sometimes they make a point and actually talk about their suffering.
It seems like men are desperate for sex and, in pursuit, find grifters who peddle them conservatism. These are the type of people that come to my mind when we talk about it.