What you actually need are walkable cities, transit (trains/buses) friendly neighborhoods, that would make it easy for people.

Yeah, their comment is a joke, but it does mention real things that are real problems with our food supply chain. Some of which could be mitigated by growing locally. Because somebody at some point made a problem with vehicles, and they "solved" it with vehicles.

Being that stupid isn't natural. You know they do the opposite of reading a book and putsome efforts to lower their IQ that much.

I have personally wondered about that. Not in a car vs cyclist thing, but cyclist vs public transport.

Not even sure how to do the math on it.

Still, both are surely way better than driving.

Haha lol, assuming people in cars count calories and or operate on minimal / in a deficit. Regardless of the car argument, people riding bikes are more likely to be counting calories and in a calorie deficit, as they're more health conscious. People driving cars wouldn't care as much, on average, and would consume more calories than necessary, probably triple the "cycling" extra calorie needs. Omfg. I could debate either side, if I had to, that's the stupidest take I've ever heard. It holds absolutely no water. Where's the data showing people in cars consume less food / calories.

I am Dutch, have 0 cars, 2 bicycles, and I'm perfectly happy with it. I've only recently came across the first situation in which I felt like car access would be usefull.

A couple I'm friends with were pregnant and they don't have a car either, but since they wanted to be able to go to the hospital quickly and indepently, they rented a car for a week or so. This would't work for me because I don't have a drivers license. People often ask me 'but what if you need to do this or that...' and never do I feel like they're pointing towards a problem that I have. Just some minor inconvenience, if one at all. But in this case I thought, yeah if my wife were pregnant it would be damn usefull to be able to transport her by car, by myself. If it ever happens I'm sure we'll find a solution though. But I found it interesting that it was only the first situation in which it actually seemed usefull to me to have car access.

I'm pretty sure overweight tommy incel the reddit mod eats more than twice what I eat and has never touched a bike in his life

This actually would be an interesting study.