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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who would be able to access my emails at rest?

If the answer isn't abso-fucking-lutely no one, I'm not interested.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How would that work? Their mail server still has to receive emails on your behalf.

Unless you mean whether they plan to sell data, which I agree they should absolutely not.

[–] cooligula@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Emails could be end to end encrypted, so the mail server wouldnt be able to see the emails. Basicslly PGP but out-of-the-box

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that basically no one uses PGP. Adoption would be hard

[–] cooligula@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But there are workarounds like the one Infomaniak uses (I believe Proton does it too). When sending an encrypted email to a non encrypted user, a link is sent instead of the contents of the email instead. In any case, encryption at rest with user provided keys and things like that are always an option.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 1 points 1 month ago

If the encryption at rest is done by the server, that defeats the point.

Also, how does the user receiving an encrypted email access it? Do they have to enter a password? How is the password transmitted to them?

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

In transit, it's impossible to get them all, though it should support PGP to anyone else that has it.

At rest, it should all be locked down so only I can access, they may have to store some messages temporarily until I connect to provide the encryption, but everything else better be completely inaccessible.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

Subscribers to Thunderbird Pro users get 500GB of storage space

That's big enough to do disk backups in the mailbox.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd prefer exchange support first.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

probably never gonna happen

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually they are working on it, albeit slowly, it seems. Fingers crossed and in the meantime there is davmail.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

oh well fuck me, this is mindblowing news. microsoft has always been so precious about the exchange protocol i just assumed that's the way it would always be

[–] sjohannes@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their blog has regular updates regarding Exchange support, if you're interested.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Yep. I even read somewhere that it should be possible (beta, at your risk) to enable it in the latest stable version, but wasn't unable to find the option and the info is really scarce.

[–] malloc@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I just like the idea that it’s using stalwart as the collaboration server (mail/calendar/contacts) [1].

I host my own personal mail server with it and have had no issues so far.

[1] https://stalw.art/