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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But I have to be together with people!

I'd rather drive my bike to work.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You also need to fix the karen problem that plagues society. I don't like getting called a slur or "go back to where you came from", and its very bad when you're stuck inside the small space as them. (By "karen" I don't mean just white women, but the attitude of some people, anyone can become a karen)

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Walking/biking > public transportation > used EV > used IC with decent fuel economy > new EV > new or low fuel economy IC.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Yes but only if you run it competently.

Source: live in Ottawa.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's great if public transport goes from near where you are to near where you want to be, in a reasonable time.

For me that's not the case. Anywhere I want to go takes 27 changes over at least 5 hours for a net distance of three miles; it'd be quicker to hop backwards blindfold on a bent pogo stick.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

people who argue for public transport argue for better implementation of it (and also city planning that supports it). the idea isn't for everyone to just stop using cars in favor of public transport even if the public transport system is absolute shit. it's for systemic support of public transport in such a way that commuters would willingly choose it over being stuck in traffic in their little metal boxes for hours.

it's a criticism of the system, not the people.

[–] romanticremedy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what decades of car centric urban design does to everyone; any transportation other than a car is treated as a second class

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

While there's something to that, it's also a difficult fact that rail is just harder than roads, and by extension more expensive. You have hills? You are going to need to do tunnels and bridges for the rail because you can't turn that sharply and you mustn't have more than 1.5% grade. For road, just snake it around and up and down the hills.

You have a source and destination that not many people will be using? It's cost prohibitive to run a whole train or bus to cover that route.

Now it's one thing when the population distribution was based around settling around the harsh realities of needing to be along viable transit paths, but when a great deal of the population settled with the assumption of roads, you are going to have a hard time sorting out transit routes without mass resettlement.

Of course, if you apply mass transit to cities and nearby areas you've gotten the worst of the troubles solved and it's viable for mass transit. But cars are just part of the equation for longer hauls.

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[–] DarthAstrius@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

I agree, but, this country, unfortunately, is built around cars now, and I certainly can’t walk to work as it would take hours, same with biking.

We need more public transportation, but we also need electric cars.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Horses are even more sustainable and renewable. And tasty if done right.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the hope is that we transition from combustion engines to no cars.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is true for dense cities, but not in more rural and semi-suburban areas.

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