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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fascists require external enemies to fight to maintain their power.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Or perceived enemies. The truth barely factors in.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They claim the boats are drug traffickers. Of course they’ve squandered any good will or reputation so no one believes it. Even if they were, you can’t just randomly kill people.

Much more likely it’s to put pressure on Venezuela for I’m not sure. Presumably it’s “the art of the deal” for oil companies that have laundered bribes through trumpcoin.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

can’t just randomly kill people.

I think they’re trying to set the precedent that they can just kill people.

Now it’s “drug runners” from Venezuela in international waters. Soon it’ll be “domestic terrorists” in international waters. Eventually it’ll be “domestic terrorists” on US soil if we let them.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean it’s true that it’s just more noise in the horror show that remains of American democracy. It’s difficult to focus on yet one more fascist action, far from home

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

No doubt.

None of us can do everything.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

they don't need domestic terrorist excuse. Ice just knocked down all the private resident doors of a large apartment complex because they claimed criminals were somewhere in the building. Took everyone indiscriminately and took property because. why not. whose gonna stop them. Lets be clear. This justification can be. There is a criminal in a neighborhood so break all the private residence doors down and grab everyone and steal their shit. They let you go later but they don't repair your door or return you property.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Last I heard China's setting the precedent for mass murdering anyone they don't like in their or neighbouring countries, America's lagging behind - they're not even at 'arresting political opponents' yet

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Distraction from the Epstein files, Israel and the ongoing war against democratic cities.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago
[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Normalization. Everything the Trump admin has been doing is to normalize the concept for the next bigger thing. Boots on the ground in LA normalized it enough for boots on the ground in DC, which normalized the concept for Chicago, Memphis, and ramping up faster.

"They're eating your pets" normalized a stronger fear of immigrants, which allowed Trump to strengthen ICE, which normalized harsher ICE actions, which normalized ICE officer's anonymity using masks, which normalized random arrests, which normalized ICE raiding an entire apartment complex and arresting kids, etc.

"Drug boats" suggests cartels. Trump threatened to invade Mexico to "go after the cartels" and Mexico said fuck off. They pivot to an easier target, and set up Venezuela to be the target to "liberate" from cartels, which will normalize the US military entering and operating in foreign countries. Once normalized the US military will enter another country, etc.

Nothing happening right now would have worked 8 months ago, smaller steps had to become normalized first. 8 months from now, all this will seem tame.

That's the thing about fascism; Every day that goes by was the best day it could have been.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yup. This is also why they did the whole leftists have secret pizza child rape dungeons to minimize the impact of Esptein and called Bidens Executive Orders overreach so when Trump escalated it complaints dounded like sour grapes and...

Just everything they complained about and then did was to shift that overton window.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

Why is ice breaking and entering and stealing stuff from private residents? We are a dangerous country doing dangerous things all around because we are run by a madman and the other branches are not putting a stop to it.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Venezuela has huge oil reserves

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Distraction from the Epstein fiasco. PEDOnald is terrified that his MAGAt brigade will turn on him once they have damning proof.

Which is silly because we know they won't but w/e.

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

Somebody has to be our Poland

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

Because our commander in queef is a doddering old fool who acts on impulse and has really outdated and misinformed beliefs.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago