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[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like the spirit but were not japan, we have to consider the antisocials.

There need to be requirments to meet to receive entitlements.

Also though capitalism is just bad at providing necessities, slapping a ubi on top wont fix it.

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[–] seggturkasz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What are you talking about? When i was born in the '80s, being unemployed for more than a few month was criminal offense in most socialist European countries. Leftism is beneficial in moderation, but definitely not every leftism is bestism if this is your only criteria for "bestism"

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

damn right. in the US, performing labor is seen as more important than human life. that tells you a lot.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is a super weird and self contradictory thing. Because yeah, the notion is that labor’s important because labor is how anything gets done, and without things getting done, how does anyone get to live a life at all? Entropy is real after all. So people who would do no labor yet get support from the rest of society are seen as execrable parasites.

And yet… the big goal is to become wealthy so that you can live on the labor of others. The whole enterprise of business is about playing the system so that you can get more for less personal labor. And the highest form of this is to work not at all yet receive even more than mere support: total indulgence.

So how are people at once shat upon for doing no labor but wanting basic support, while others are idealized for doing no labor but wanting total indulgence?

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Liberals watching fascism evolve in real time: "Fuck your guns! Give them over!"

Leftists: "Uh, hell no, are you crazy?"

Liberals: "You'll get KILLED!"

Leftists: "Yeah, that's going to be the outcome whether you fight or not."

Liberals: "Where my 2A people at?!" (got a burn in there. tee hee hee)

Me: "I have loads of guns, practice best I know how, several times a week. Tell me what you would have me do."

Liberals: <FUCKING SILENCE>

Never heard a single word, not one reply to that question. Here's your chance to shine!

I haven't seen masked men in my town. None have come for my brown, legal, immigrant wife. As of this year, I am not outdoors unarmed. Indoors? You can't catch me shitting without a firearm in reach. Insane? Abso-fucking-lutly insane. No one should live like that. But this is where we're at in America.

Want to hear something nuts? I was just now showing my wife that I can buy all the gear these fascists are wearing on Amazon.com. Yes, POLICE patches, all of it.

So, to sum, they've demonstrated that they'll kill me. They've demonstrated that anyone can look like them. You go figure out how to take that information.

Ban for "inciting violence" in 3, 2...

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

You don’t get an answer because people get banned for typing the correct answer.

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

More and more I'm convinced most Americans have no idea what a liberal, leftist, or other terms actually are. They're just parroting the words they hear from their feeds.

'Liberal' is the funniest because both red and blue accuse each other of being them. My guess is blues think liberalism is laissez-faire and the reds think it's woke social freedoms. They're both slightly on the right track, but not at all.

And in the rest of the free world...

Liberals: No one should live in poverty regardless of their ability to perform labour.

Leftists: Yoooo, 40 hrs is fucked. What is this, the 1300s?

Liberals: Actually, yeah that is kind of fucked. An employer shouldn't be ble to encroach on an employee's life that much. This is an imbalance of liberties.

Leftist: Great! So what are we going to do bout it?

Liberals: Fuck all. We can't be sure employees don't want this too. Besides, someone will sort it out soon, they always do.

Leftists: I'll donate a union $5 so I can tell my friend I'm left.

And in the next five years, some prolific young gun politician swoops in the 35 hour work week. But due to cultural reasons, everyone keeps working 40 hours and gets plenty of overtime for it. This having the employer pay more and the employee see little benefit because the state haven't adjusted their now dated tax brackets. But along with very good minimum wage standards and an unemployment rate < 5%, both the leftist and the liberal never found the true source of the poverty and so continued using foreign corporations and large franchise to fulfill almost all of their needs. And everyone but their local infrastructures and communities lived happily ever after until the next global recession hit. The leftist and liberal "really meant it this time" when they said they'd support local and try to live more independently, but the inconvenience of it meant they silently did not.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

"Rest of the world."

Let me introduce you to the Swedish political party, The Liberals. Their ideologies are things like

  • Muslims bad
  • Immigrants bad
  • We should collaborate with the Nazi party
  • We should monitor citizens private communication
  • Criminals should receive harsher punishments

They're socially very conservative, and historically have been economically liberal. There are weird outliers however, like the other year when they almost tore themselves apart debating the legal nuances around incest.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a bit like responding "All lives matter" when hearing about Black Lives Matter.

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