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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

„But what‘s the plot reason for them being gay? I don‘t mind gay people being in something, but if there‘s not a reason for it, then it‘s just pandering!“

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean, the same reason why anybody's gay? They're born that way?

What do they expect? "A wizard turned him gay."

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is where the line gets blurry tho. On one hand, yeah, bigots exist, but on the other hand, I could see this being a clumsy attempt at complaining about poor writing.

Like, I'm pretty sure I said something like this when Rowling said Dumbledore was gay. I'm not cishet, amd it still feels like she retconned that in for points, especially now that we're seeing exactly what she thinks about LGBT stuff.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh she absolutely did. Just like she did the “i never said Hermione *wasn’t * Black” thing, despite having described her cheeks as “pink” on more than one occasion.

But that’s not what the people i was quoting mean. They’re doing the “straight, white, cis, man is the default, and anything deviating from that needs an explicit in-universe explanation”.

There was a thing that did the rounds a while back which was variations on “what race are you? White or political?”, “what’s your sexuality? Straight or political?”, etc.

it’s basically that. Straight guy? Fine. Gay guy? “But what’s the *reason *he’s gay? How is it relevant to the plot?”

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, I get what you mean. I just see a lot of clumsy getting lumped in with malevolent on a regular basis, and want to call attention to it.

Edit: Like the people who say your point about Hermione is racist because black people can blush too, when that's not what you're trying to say at all.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

If you don't need a plot reason for a male character to have a wife, then you don't need a plot reason for a male character to have a husband.

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[–] REDACTED 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think sexual orientation needs a reason, it's just there.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Me neither. That’s why i put it in quotes to make it clear i was aping stupid objections.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but they were just groomed to lefty sympathies by Shigeru Miyamoto

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

It all starts with a grift from a bunch of illiterate idiots in the ancient near east who practice foreskin blood magic

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Sheva Alomar, Mr.Zelda - that's about it, I think.

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