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Current best no neutral smart switches (startrek.website)

submitted 3 weeks ago by xyguy@startrek.website to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

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Moved into my own house again recently. I would like to get a lot of stuff automated like I had in my previous house.

Unfortunately, theres a lot if old wiring here and most switches have no neutrals in the box.

What is the current best option for smart switches (ideally dimmers) that dont require a neutral wire?

I'd prefer a non-wifi solution that doesnt require a proprietary hub but it seems like there are limited options anyway and I am having trouble finding almost any good options that dont require a neutral.

Anybody using anything they really like?

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[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Best are probably the switches by Inovelli. That said, if you're okay installing the resistor needed to make them work, the Moesgo switches I'm using are quite decent at half the price, you just got to like or get over the styling.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 4 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you. I'm not too worried about installation as long as they fit in the outlet box. I'll look into these.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

North America? I’ve heard good things about innovelli. Zigbee or zwave, bring your own hub.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

North America yes. I'll look at Innovelli.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

Had a friend rip out his Caseta for Innovelli because he wanted to nerd out more than Caseta would allow (smart bulbs etc.). But Caseta would be my choice for wall switches. Just so bloody expensive.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 3 points 3 weeks ago

Have you checked out shelly stuff, the new gen4 can be WiFi also ZigBee or thread.

I would put it in the light fitting

[–] gopherontheroad@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

I've had good success with Aqara's newer H2 switches, which will work with or without a neutral and can do either Thread or ZigBee.

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I have exactly same question, BUT I don't want to replace a light switch with one that have different look and won't fit in a frame anyway. And also don't want to install a bypass on a light bulb.

I my opinion a better option is to install the relay near the bulb. And battery-powered light switch in the box under the original mechanical light switch. That can read a change in mechanical switch and sends a signal to the hub/relay.

Do I have any option? May be even a pcb option, if there's ready firmware.