I prefer good faith discussions please. I love the Fediverse and love what it can be long term. The problem is that parts of the culture want nothing to do with financial aspect. Many are opposed to ads, memberships, sponsorships etc The “small instances” response does nothing to positively contribute to the conversation. There are already massive instances and not everyone wants to self host. People are concerned with larger companies coming to the Fedi but these beliefs will drive everyday users to those instances. People don’t like feeling disposable and when you hamstring admins who then ultimately shut down their instances that’s exactly how people end up feeling. There has to be an ethical way of going about this. So many people were too hard just to be told “too bad” “small instances” I don’t want to end up with a Fediverse ran by corporations because they can provide stability.

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[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Totally out of a blue idea. Probably stupid but… what if there was a system which shows the community in real time how much money is needed/dev,mod,hoster time is worth, and people “top up the jar”. No mystery of „they’re probably already been donated enough”. We’d see how much is needed. Probably would need to have a bit of trust to the receivers not to abuse it but… idk just random thought lol

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly even if the Fediverse is mainly run by corporations, that is still 100x better than the non-fediverse. Mainly because the direct and immediate competition from other instances will keep them in check. You can't pull shit like Reddit, when users could immediately leave and get an almost perfect substitute. And I believe there will always be a substantial amount of crowd or privately funded "community instances", whose major goal is just good social media.

[–] dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I can understand. I just would prefer the more indie aspect remain in control of the people. That admins and mods can be compensated for their hard work and for costs/fees

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hmm. Does this mean that it's expensive to run this whole Fediverse thing and that the money is running out?

[–] dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It means that many servers have shutdown due to costs. That there will be more users due to Twitters incompetence a due to platforms adopting ActivityPub down the line. This will have significant strain on resources, remaining with only a donation option is dangerous

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