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Memes of Production

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think China is first or second for nearly every country.

[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Should we excuse the US by the same logic then?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The US is also a major economy that trades with every country in a substantial way. So do you find its trade with Israel acceptable, as I thought you were implying about China?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What else do you want to know? I explained as clearly as I can.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like you to know that I downvoted you because this comment is a bullshit way to have a discussion. I don't disagree with your argument persay, but you come off as a dickhead that thinks you're hot shit peanuts. So get fucked.

[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cool story. I have no idea why you are reacting this way. If you wanted to give me feedback so I behave better this is useless.

Commenter literally posted the same non-reply twice. I was trying to be as polite as possible but what else can I even say?

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just wanted to point out that your "polite as possible" comes off as "asshole". I wanted you to know because from over here it's pretty obvious you've got your head up your ass and I expect this is a theme in your life.

[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

OK well given that I was just calmly asking for clarification after an extremely vague non-reply, I think you're just a belligerent person who has trouble reading tone online and your opinion has no validity. Especially since you've now twice declined to explain anything about why you feel the way you do and instead posted insults for no apparent reason. Keep it to yourself next time and maybe people will like you more.

[–] ghost@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they were excusing China. You might be thinking of a .ml instance?

[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe not, but I don't see another interpretation. There's China apologia everywhere on the threadiverse.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If one was moral or principled, certainly not. If one was a campist, fair is fair I suppose.

[–] LibertyLizard@quokk.au 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My personal view is campism is a stage 4 terminal tumor on leftist thought. So I'll stick with no in both cases. I support BDS.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Agreed. I think that's the point of the meme. Not justification, but pointing out how much of the criticism is unfortunately hollow.

[–] DigitalDidgeridoo@kbin.earth 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Soviet Union was also the first country to recognize Israel and helped arm the Nakba.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the failure of campist based leftist infighting is that no nation represents the best interests of the working class. the global north shouldn't be thought in terms of the empires that compose it but instead in terms of a transnational oligarchy that uses national identity as a distraction from class war

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's going straight into my vernacular!

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That sounds accurate for the here and now for sure, the rich, investors, have no loyalty to any western country, not the ones that undergird and protect their wealth, ahem, and not the rest. Patriotism is for the sheep. As defined by them. True patriots are the left, at least in the US, defending the constitution.

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Big countries do shitty stuff part 5 trillion

[–] Ourst@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Let’s end countries.

[–] Ourst@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago