There shouldn't be settlements in the West Bank.
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US: “Yeah, if you could land grab and displace people without making a massive fuss and killings, that would be super cool…”
All settlers are extremist and the fact they're called settlers instead of occupiers stealing land is ridiculous
Right? The normalization of occupation and stealing land in this day and age… it’s downright insanity.
And then people wonder why organizations like Hamas exist…
Any other context, they'd be call Colonizers.
I'm glad this is being said. There are problems all around and fervor seems to be creating large envelopes of "allowed activity" for those who are willing.
This is a complex situation, but some things are clear. This is one.
Yea most Israelis agree it's fucked too.
Cops are bastards and let it happen, local troops help.
One silver lining is the Israeli Left is having a resurgence and there might be a government trying to roll it back and clean up it's act after this.
And even this one is complex. A lot of the support for the settlers comes from American evangelical Christians. They believe that Jesus will come back under two conditions.
The first is that Jews run Israel. That's a check. The second is that Israel suffers a major attack. Well, that won't happen so that evangelicals send money to the settlers. Not only does it align with their "Israel should have the biblical borders" beliefs, but it adds fuel to the fire - worsening the conflict and making it more likely for a huge "Jesus will return this time" attack to happen.
They also support right wing Israeli politicians for the same reason. They don't want a guy running Israel who says "let's get a lasting peace with the Palestinians." They want a guy that says "I'll burn every Palestinian house to the ground and then burn the Palestinians themselves!"
This isn't meant to excuse actions by anyone else. It just shows that three situations are complex with a lot of people all over the place working against peace.
Well, he won't, he's an arsehole.
Riiiight... the US is so "upset" at Israel that they will only be giving Israel hundreds of billions in genocide money in the coming few years instead of trillions.
Riiiight.
Total aid to Israel since its inception is no where near 1 trillion dollars, let alone multiple trillions. We're currently in the range of $3.8B per year, which is a lot. In the 75 years or so that Israel has existed the US has given something on the order of $160B total.
Total aid to Israel since its inception is no where near 1 trillion dollars
Yes... that's sarcastic hyperbole on my part.
the US has given something on the order of $160B total.
We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!
Yitzhak Rabin
...and the extremists running Israel, while he's at it
They're saying this just 70 - 80 years too late.
They’ve been saying this, and getting traction on it, for decades.
It’s really easy to tell the people who just became aware of issues in the region over the past few weeks.
Not really? They can be hardly said to be "saying it and getting traction" while arming Israel to the hilt. They have and have had massive leverage over Israel and have largely chosen empty symbolic gestures while continuing to prop up the occupying state.
Or what?
Or we will send you weapons and ammunition, but we will look upset doing it
just draft them. problem "solved".
I dread to think what they would do in the military
I don't think he has an interest.
Maybe the US should stop vetoing UN resolutions then.
Rein them in until the next news cycle, that is.
They have to appear as though they're doing something, then it's back to business as usual.