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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Green texts are the worst mostly because (I’m convinced) apple has programmed Messages to intentionally lose them to make group texts with android users a nightmare to deal with, in an attempt at social pressure on android users to get an iPhone.

They are wildly inconsistent in their delivery success. Often times texts will either never go through to some members of the group or go through at random times. Also sent videos are always horribly compressed. Obvious solution would be to use a third party messaging app but but convincing everyone to do that is usually a nonstarter.

What it is though is green texts are just sms messages, which is the original text message protocol that uses cellular infrastructure to deliver the message. Blue texts are sent via the Messages app over the internet so they are likely just more reliable and quick to deliver.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.

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[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use Android with Snapdragon processors to be able to unlock bootloader and flash a custom ROM. This allows me to get Google goodies, even those which current Pixels and any other device, be it an Android or an iPhone, lack. For example: Unlimited original quality photo and video uploads to Google Photos. Regarding your bubble situation, as others have already chimed in, non-US peeps just don't care about it.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Dude… let it go. Seriously. You’re clearly trying to drum up some drama. It doesn’t matter what people use. It doesn’t effect you at all. They will use what they want, and you will use what you want.

And I’ve read that post. You’re fishing from conflict there as well, but most of the responses were well thought out reasons for using the product- you just didn’t like/agree with them. So now you’re here trying again.

If you have such a hate-boner for apple, don’t use apple.

Deal with it.

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[–] Fubar91@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

It's only a deal breaker for children and those who have the mental development of a child. It's basically two children on the playground arguing that their personal favorite colour is better just because.

It logically and practically does not matter at all what colour a fucking text bubble is.

[–] legion@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

SMS sucks. That's the real issue. The fact that an Android user being present in a group chat drags the chat's feature set back down to SMS level is what people are reacting to. (Fortunately, iOS 17 will fix this, at least for the iOS users in the group chat).

Having it be a friendship deal-breaker is childish, though.

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[–] theachievers@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I have friends who, against better counsel, have android phones, and the group texts were forever breaking. I finally brokered a deal for us to use Signal, which has been great. So (1) Android users in a group text on iPhone is a super pain in the ass, and (2) If everyone's using Signal, it's cool.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't care what phone you have, but if you have an iPhone, I will assume you are an idiot by default until proven otherwise.

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[–] Gomiyboy@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only the most superficial of people would use this reason as a method for diminishing or isolating someone.

I would question my relationship with them if this is their outlook.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure if it is possible for me to care less what type of phone somebody uses.

If I found out somebody was judging me based on my phone I would seriously consider breaking up with them.

I'm surprised and dismayed we are even having this conversation, and some of the other replies are deeply troubling.

[–] skyhy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I have an iPhone... For me if I see the green bubbles that means that the messages are SMS which is insecure and antiquated. I use iMessage and Signal because they are more secure and allow for sending rich media like photos and videos without worrying about MMS and SMS. I have massive amounts of data, why the heck would I use SMS to send messages? It has nothing to do with hating Android, it's more to do with SMS being hot garbage.

To clarify, if you only have SMS, that's fine I don't care and it doesn't affect our relationship, but given the choice I will always default to an end to end encrypted messengers.

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[–] za_snake_guy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I think this is mostly an issue in the US. The rest of the world uses a variety of messaging apps instead of text messaging. Here in South Africa WhatsApp and Telegram are prevalent.

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[–] bleeps@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As an iPhone user, whenever I'm in a group chat with one or more Android users, sending images tends to time out and fail to send for whatever reason. Also video sometimes is very tiny. In those cases I'd rather use another app for a smoother experience for everyone.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Absolutely definitely yes.

In high school and continuing into university, everyone would play the iMessage/Snapchat games that only work with iOS. The few Android users, including me, were 2nd class citizens.

Using Android has absolutely cost me several potential friendships and looking back I genuinely should've spent the money and bought the inferior iPhone.

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[–] gornius@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't even hate Apple that much, but what I hate is that every time I find out somebody I know uses Apple product I say to myself in quiet "Oh gosh...", because very often the reason they use Apple whatever is to feel better than somebody.

And I hate people like these. Not every Apple enjoyer is like that, and there are legitimate reasons to go Apple, like wanting that ecosystem, good camera,, using something that just works or go with Apple Silicon revolution. And no, Apple is not really private.

But in most cases their reasons are either a fucking IM bubbles (because I don't want to spend 5 seconds to install an app that works anywhere) or it just "doesn't lag" (which any phone over $200 doesn't) which is obviously a fucking bullshit to cover the actual answer which is "I wanted to feel better by having shit that every fancy person uses".

But the funniest people are the ones trying to explain these "amazing features" to me, totally ignoring the points that IM sucks on Android because Apple pushes their own standard and refuses to use open ones, that no sideloading and Apple controlling whole app ecosystem is the best thing ever and that Android is slow, because it [put any argument Apple fanboy without the basic OS concepts understanding would make] and not because you used $100 phone and switched to a motherfucking $600 phone. Wow, who would've thought?

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[–] bighi@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is so American...

"Let me send an SMS, while I ride my horse to go to my bank and do other things that people used to do in 1870."

"Oh, their SMS color is different! I dislike people with a different color than me."

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I can see why people would be annoyed. Y family is heavily invested in the Apple/iCloud side of things. And having all our phones work together in the same environment is so much less of a headache vs. a mix of apple, android.

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[–] kissmedanascully@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

I understand it can give some girls the ick. Try not to let them see your phone.

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