Thanks, EU.
Please just let this be a global decision, and not like these companies do with GDPR.
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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If this turns out to be EU-only, then it’ll be useful for niche apps and ones that aren’t normally allowed (like emulators, third party YouTube apps, and other cool shit), but it won’t be commercially useful for the titans of tech like Google and Meta. Not a bad start.
Side loading and OS modding would be the only thing that could make migrate.
Only thing that would make me use an iphone is side loading and the ability to place my icons wherever i want. Its crazy to me that icons have to start in the top left. The hardest place to reach especially as phones have gotten bigger. Such a dumb restriction.
That's really a thing? Wow. Guess you can install a bunch of junk apps to fill that corner so you can reach the stuff you actually use lol
I had the 2nd and 4th Gen iPod touches and the way to do it back then was to jailbreak it and use an app that installs blank icons so you can "arrange" the pages however you wanted. Good times.
also lifting that stupid ban on other browser engines, and I'd like to see the ability to change more default app stuff
Yeah, that too
ackstually, you can kinda sideload up to two apps already
How?
altStore
Sideloady
Would this allow me to sideload apps that are region restricted?
I’m from the US but live in Asia. The local version of Amazon is restricted to accounts from this country.
I have to use the web app, but the web app is incomplete, I can check order status or message sellers or even contact customer support.
I’d love to be able to do this.
Generally, as far as I understand side loaded apps work as long as you don't reboot your phone. Which is kind of a major issue. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the way apples current side loading works just isn't very applicable with day-to-day use.
Edit: you may be able to bypass this restriction, but as far as I know side loading apps onto Apple phones is extremely difficult. Even jailbreaking an iPhone is extremely limited unless you have a really comprehensive knowledge and then even at that point it is still extremely difficult and relies on people who are very good at what they do. But due to apples restrictions are still not as good as just something you could do out of the box with an Android. In full disclosure, it's been a very long time since I've ever properly used an Apple product. The last time i jail broke something from Apple was probably my iTouch B way back in like 2014 at the latest maybe? I just haven't been within that ecosystem in a long time and all my knowledge is just really acquired from kind of observing what is around. And cursorly looking into it. For me, I have no reason to ever want to go back to an iPhone. Even if I could side load apps, the restriction of where I can place icons on my home screen frustrates me to no end. Especially as phones have evolved and gotten larger its just like it's such a old school bygone concept. I don't even understand why they're so insistent on keeping it.
What? I think you've heavily confused sideloading with jailbreaking. The apps don't disappear after you reboot. You just have to have it refresh every 7 days. With SideStore you don't even need another computer to do stuff. It's convenient as long as you don't need more than 2 other apps. You do NOT need to jailbreak to sideload. If you jailbreak, you can "sideload" infinite apps.
Okay that's good to know. Still generally sounds like a giant pain in the ass
As long as the app doesn't need advanced features like VPN configurations, any app from any region would be fine.
It’s just a shopping app. I’m sure it would work fine. Any advice on how I can find the actual app to add with sideloady?
Thanks! I just checked and the app I need is not there. I think I’ll just keep maintaining a second phone.
Do you have payment methods on your Apple ID? Even if you don’t, you can try to switch your region on the Apple ID website. When it asks for payment method, choose “none”.
So, can I do this then switch back to my current region? Maybe this is what I need to do to get all the apps that I need.
Yeah, though you may have to switch back and forth to update
Omg! Why is it so annoying? Like I can’t even get one of my banking apps. I can’t believe that there is not a better solution as there are many people who live between countries.
You can try it out but in my experience “official apps” are more hit or miss on whether they’ll work.
Thanks! It’s been my biggest problem living in a different country.
No not sideloady, SideStore
Apple May Soon Be Forced To Allow Sideloading Apps on iOS.
I’m really hoping this happens. I’d like to write a few iOS apps for personal use, but I don’t want to pay fees to be a developer.
Hmm, aren’t the costs only for publishing on the app store and you can import an app from your own xcode for free? At least I was under that impression.
You can only install 3 self-signed apps at a time, and they expire after 7 days. It’s meant to make it difficult for anything other than development purposes.
Came here to say that. Expiring every 7 days is too troublesome to be worth it.
It’s not, at least not on a Mac. It refreshes automatically, I honestly haven’t refreshed my apps in months outside of upgrading to iOS 17.
Hope we get dolphin iOS 🥹 without the hassle
Doubt Apple will allow JIT to run on their specific region sideloading.
😭 i fear as well
Good news is you'd probably be able to run a torrent client or anything else that doesn't require JIT code in order to function.
Yea 😃 I’m looking forward playing the older emulators
The DMA requires Apple to provide access to all hardware and software features required to serve competing apps and services. Browser engines are explicitly mentioned several times, and these require JIT access. It’s going to be interesting to see how they implement that.
Brussels Effect. 🇪🇺
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Not OP, but is this one better? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3710368/apple-gets-ready-for-app-sideloading-in-europe.html
Porn. When?
You can't just type it into your browser?
because they are forced to
And all the people who defended the lack of sideloading as a security feature will suddenly think it's a great idea.
This could be a real game-changer! I’ve always felt Apple’s app restrictions were a bit too tight, so hearing they might allow sideloading due to the EU’s Digital Markets Act is exciting. It opens the door for more freedom and innovation. Curious to see how Apple balances security with this new level of openness.