Framework

• speakers suck
• no touch screen option

Literally just those two things

If they fix those (and keep releasing new updates every year with regular cadence) then I really have a dream laptop option whenever I need an upgrade

Edit: oh also.. the framework logo button on the keyboard… it’s an entire keyboard button! In a prominent corner spot. What is it for? Opening the framework website? That’s just dumb. It’s a super prominent keyboard key. Find a proper use for it, or just release a utility to let us customise it as an action button which can do whatever we want. It’s super bizarre. A minor issue - but very bizarre

Assuming you are talking about the new AMD 13 I would avoid windows 10. My biggest downfall was drivers install and weak wifi 6e reception. I am running windows 11 but now that everything is installed right it has been great and the wifi 6e picks up most of of the time over the 5ghz band.

The weak speakers is the biggest thing I've noticed. They just aren't loud enough if you want to cue up a video and show it to a few people. They can't cut though the background noise.

Sometimes if I bump it really hard, the trackpad registers a false click.

There are cheaper ways to get a laptop with the same specs as a framework, but the thing to consider is not just the upfront cost, but the long term cost of ownership. If something breaks or you want to upgrade, you can swap out the components instead of replacing the whole thing.
eg. instead of spending $1500 every 2 years on a new laptop, you can spend $2000 now, then $1000 every 2 years on upgrades.

Battery and you really need to consider every portion of the laptop. Updating drivers, ensuring the ssd chosen is low powered, enough ram at the right timing etc.

Battery Life and no Touchscreen. That's kind of it to be honest.

Battery

From my notes I've been taking:

• AMDGPU on linux with this board has a rare issue where things slow down to about 1 FPS and a bunch of lines about [drm:dc_dmub_srv_cmd_run_list [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Error queueing DMUB command: status=2 show up in dmesg. The only way to get past it is to reboot. I've had this happen maybe 3 times in the past two weeks of ownership.
• Plugging or unplugging the power while the machine is sleeping wakes it up. This is because the embedded controller for some reason sends a keystroke when this happens. You can add custom udev rules to work around this very successfully at the cost of your keyboard not being able to wake (use the power button or lift the lid instead), but it's a thing.
• Ethernet module was a disappointment because of how far it sticks out of the laptop.

On the more nitpicky side:

• Bezel is for the most part just held on magnetically. You can peel it off without any serious intention of disassembly.
• Screen resolution is an awkward size for HiDPI scaling. Some people get around this by scaling font size only, which looks fine. I've gone the wayland fractional scaling route which is a little bit of a journey.

I really like this laptop though and prefer it to my ThinkPad X1 Carbon.

Better/premium design because the current design looks like a laptop from the 2010s.

Weak hinges, even the default on the 12th but that's tolerable. Apart from that ? None

Battery life. ~4-5 hours, and that's with lots of tweaks.

That's it.

If you are operating in a developed environment with plugs everywhere, like a college, then this isn't a major issue IMHO.

The screen housing seems a bit flimsy, if that makes sense. I grab a top corner to close the laptop and there is way more flex than I’m comfortable with. Instead, I have gotten in the habit of using the top center to close the laptop.

Fw13 could use a design brushup in the coming year or two(don't get me wrong was good at launch) and fw16 needs a better gpu

No high refresh rate screen option.

Intel based battery life is underwhelming

I would like to see a MagSafe like dedicated charging port not thing up the I/O

The fan curve is beyond obnoxious I would just prefer throttling then the machine sounding like a 20 year old think-pad with half a cat stuck in it.

It’s pretty heavy for a 13 inch laptop.

Top panel feels kinda of flimsy.

I get really weird keyboard lockout issues to where I have to pull the expansion ports out to fix it.

Doesn’t support windows hello.

a little bit too expensive

I only got it built two days ago, and I haven't got any major criticisms against the FW13 AMD. The biggest problem I had with it was the wifi card / network adapter tempermentally not connecting to 5G networks, but it turned out that I just needed to reseat an improperly connected cable, which I figured out quickly thanks to the swath of documentation that Framework has built up over the years.

As a non-Framework-owner, but one who supports the concept and the company, the deal-breaker for me has been the lack of physical touchpad buttons. I'd love a pointing stick, too, instead of a touchpad, but I can live without that. Physical buttons (preferably three of them) are a must-have for me, however.

I don't like how much ghosting the screen has. Night mode scrolling is really bad. Besides that, I like everything else.

it runs very loud, the speakers are crap, and the webcam has never worked on mine

Somehow now freight forwarding is allowed but stupidly region locked in EU.

Aka, I can't get more parts now that I moved to Japan.

My issue is a nonstandard size of screen

Are any of the screens touch screens? Cuz if not, that will b my complaint

FW 12 DIY edition (so Intel), running Ubuntu 20.04.

Battery life is a bit underwhelming, and so are the hinges.

One thing that is annoying is that the trackpad sometimes fails to work, when opening the laptop, but it also seems to relate to having high load and poor wifi connectivity (?)

the fan is noisy AF with the highly pitched noise while the speakers are anemic. 10% battery drain over night when not connected to a power cable and in suspend mode under Ubuntu 22.04, which works really well otherwise.

R7 on win 11. I upgraded from 12th i5.

I upgraded screen, battery, speakers.

My primary concern was the speakers, abysmal. The 80db are very loud, I wasn't expecting how loud they are. Maxed out they sound terrible, but they cover a way more reasonable volume range than before. Even if they have overall slightly less sound quality, I'm not listening to music on it, I'll use headphones for that. But YouTube videos or the odd game, 80db highly recommended.

Next concern was the heat. The i5 did not do well for me. R7 is substantially better. For performance, let alone heat and noise. And even now, after another users report, I may repaste.

Sort of wish there was a higher refresh screen but that's not picky, 60 is good enough and the brightness is great with the matte.

I personally dislike the front left and right sides in the wing shape. I much prefer the MacBook style body shape. But that's personal.

Love my framework laptop. I would have liked coreboot as a firmware (get the chromebook edition if its a must) or wait for ever and someone will port it (there where some folks trying)

When swapping internal nvme, the bios loses custom bootnetries for those stored on the nvme. Unless the default boot efi filename and location. Guess grub or windows bootlaoder by defualt works fine. My custom arch install is a pro move, so yeah. The bios itself is fine enough. Incan recover from this.

More bios updates? DONT browse the forums. Tons of negative ppl that complain useless statements. We may get a nice update on 12th gen (the one i have), amd and newer and first FW did get uodates or still getting many. Mine, someway have 1 beta and i wish they had time (the third party and FW, to test and distribute the newer bios) as if my laptop would die, NOT. Its still a safe laptop anyway

I sat on it, its bended now a bit. Guess what, she still works nice and a replacement part is CHEAP compared to some highend other brands. Im just a cheapskate ans waiting till im convinced i need it and the network adapter (a aliexpress dongle 2.5g dongle seems fine now too)

get your nvme and ram elsewhere. I got a nice deal.locally and dont buy windows, just get your university license somehow or activate using hardware based activation (naughty) i ofcourse uninstall windoes when im finished with uni.

Id like no shipping costs. Its sad at ghe moment, or shipping from europe.

I dont own one but the reason I decided against one is that a max spec one is expensive (16in). GPU is not really all that hotswappable either (about 5 -10 min work). And the worst offender imo is: I cant see a reason why I would need an upgradeable device. Sure I can upgrade singular components and reduce cost but how often is that going to happen? More likely i have to do it in batches which hinders the money saving aspect significantly. On top of that im not super convinced about the build quality (speakers for example are really important to me as well as battery life) and it just wasnt worth it to me. Love the repairability aspect but it would very much be an ethics based purchase than one because I am convinced by the product. Instead went with an M3 pro macbook and as far as battery, screen and general build quality go I am super happy with it. Very antithetical to framework though :(