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so this is something that I find interesting.

every tech company was plagued with issues at one point or another, apple had their fair share and so did any other company. the thing is - when a flaw is found on apple products people blow it to huge dimensions. apple customers (me included) expect perfection, we expect a flawless product right out of the box, but when we don't get it we judge apple quite harshly.this is some thing iv'e never noticed with any other tech company. why?

I think this comes down to marketing and reputation.

as an example, let's compare Apples reputation with Google and Samsung - the companies making the leading android flagships in the iPhone pro line price range:

Google is known as software company, people see their pixel line as the only way to get the vanilla android experience without bloatware - as such, they don't expect the pixel line to be in the forefront of hardware innovation - and indeed their tensor chips are extremely underwhelming. people buy pixel phones for vanilla android and have no other expectations.

Samsung always had a reputation for half-assing new technologies and rushing them in order to be the first with a product utilizing the new technologies in the market. this is evident back in the days of the galaxy s4 which had face unlock years before apple launched Face ID, and in some parts of the world used their own exynos chip which was the first octa core chip utilizing ARM's big.little in a smartphone - problem was that the face unlock didn't work more than 50% of the time, and the exynos chip had a design issue that allowed either the 4 performance cores to be active or the 4 efficiency cores, which resulted in the galaxy s4 running slower and hotter than the iPhone 4 with a dual core chip. this tradition continues over the years with the galaxy watch, curved displays, and foldable phones. as a result, while on paper the galaxy phones are technological marvels, this doesn't translate well to real world use as they are full of gimmicks and bloatware and become sluggish after very little time.

now we get to Apple. apple always had the reputation of a high quality brand. they would be behind the competition in terms of features, then roll out a feature that would not work seamlessly and perfectly for the end user.

but not only that - unlike other tech bands, Apple also brands their products as a fashion statement and a status symbol. comparing an iPhone to to any other flagship phone is like comparing a Swatch to a Rolex, sure, both are watches and both tell the time, but a Rolex is made from premium materials, with utmost precision and regard to little details.

the way Apple markets their own brand causes their customer base to expect perfection from them.

obviously this affects how mistakes made by apple are blown out of proportion and remembered for years at a time while Samsung's exploding battery fiasco has fizzled out and is largely forgotten by now.

but this also comes into play in what we expect when we buy an apple product:

- when people complain about cosmetic imperfections in their apple products the comments are encouraging them to replace it. since this is unacceptable for an expensive apple device to be imperfect, while for other manufacturers, the comments ae mostly "it's a tool, use it and stop worrying"

- people are willing ro engage in endless replacement loops hoping to find their perfect unicorn device that has not even the smallest scratch, nick, dent, scuff, display unevenness or any other imperfection.

- even I, when I buy an apple product I inspect it the same way I would an expensive watch or piece of jewelry, and I always find some kind of blemish. I only recently learned to lower my standards as I come to realize that the perfect unicorn device does not exist and trying to endlessly replace devices will only waste my time and not bring me closer to getting said perfect unicorn device.

I think this could be solved in 2 ways:

  1. lowering expectations - change the marketing strategy so that the brand is no longer synonymous with premium quality, and lower prices. but this would of course hurt Apple's brand image which differentiate them from other tech companies
  2. raise standards - implement stricter QC protocols, send Apple's own QC engineers to oversee the process in factories, make warranty more flexible, maybe release devices that allow for certain cosmetic issues to be fixed on the spot, similar to how a watchmaker can polish watches. this would obviously cost a lot of money, and i'm not sure it is even possible at the large rates most apple products are manufactured at.

what do you think? is that even a problem? if so, how should it be addressed?

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[–] RockstarGTA6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m old enough to remember Samsung having exploding phones , imagine if that had been Apple

[–] FollowingFeisty5321@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Pretty much the same thing did happen to Apple but with MacBooks, there's actually a few 2015-ish models that are banned on planes.

https://www.techradar.com/news/macbook-pro-flight-ban-everything-you-need-to-know

[–] thethurstonhowell@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because they hold themselves to a higher standard

[–] SpiritedAway80@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You pay more.

[–] Tacotuesday8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
  1. From my experience, there’s a pretty active hate brigade against apple and in media in general. Some from people who think there’s two sides of a platform war to be won. I’ve never understood why there is so much tribalism in absolutely everything. 2. Some of it comes from what gets clicks and upvotes. Nobody is going to click on an article saying “Everything is fine with the latest iPhone or MacBook”. But they will click on “Check out this thing I hate about the iPhone 15” for some reason.
[–] -Gh0st96-@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because they set themselves higher than other companies

[–] SimRacer101@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This guy doesn’t believe in capital letters.

[–] jakgal04@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It comes down to price, as simple as that. Apple charges a premium, people expect a premium product.

[–] prokoala3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Leave it to an apple user to know the answer and write an essay to see if someone will suck his self righteous little Weiner

[–] Sillyci@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve never had an issue with Apple’s QC. It’s probably the best in the industry tbh.

[–] 0000GKP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Other companies are not relevant. I own an Apple product, not a Google or a Samsung or a Dell product. I expect my hardware and software to work in a certain way. My expectations are based on the product I own, not products that someone else sells.

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[–] xdxmann@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

because it’s the most popular

[–] Certain_Ad_7661@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Apple says their stuff is better. You use it our way, and it'll work. But sometimes it doesn.t

[–] jsnxander@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fo me its because of my decades long experience with Apple users that don't acknowledge issues with the products. I've had Apple types say their laptops never crash while I'm trying to revive their frozen, gray screened Apple laptop. I've also had Apple types ask me in Android phones play music.

Now, I've had pretty much every major Apple product since the original Mac, yes including the Newton, first digital camera, first laptops etc. Like their IBM and HP and Dell counterparts, they've all been equally flawed.

Not admitting that they are flawed is what annoys me. Lots of Apple users in my family, and I even switched my Mom to an iPhone and Apple Watch from Android. So, I see the value for the right person.

[–] milquetoast_wheatley@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because Apple financially expects more of their customers than other tech companies.

[–] showmethenoods@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Look at the prices and you have your answer

[–] Adorable-Employer244@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Holding to higher standards? Apple gets so many passes even with how slow they roll out new technologies. It’s ridiculous. I think other companies had to compete so much harder to latest and greatest hardware where Apple can essentially release almost same phone year after year and people would still buy. I don’t see any high standards in that.

[–] FollowingFeisty5321@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is the "higher standard" you are referring to the basic and fairly widely-established consumer right to not have faulty products else the manufacturer addresses the issue?

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[–] slade51@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Deep Pockets. Lawyers sue companies that have money for obvious reasons. Countries tax/restrict/fine companies that have money for many of the same reasons, along with protecting their own local companies in the same business.

[–] Bacon-80@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tldr; Apple is held to a higher standard because of how their products are marketed. They’re clean & “luxury” - like the OCD version of a company. If they came out with anything less, their customers would be appalled. They set that standard themselves tho.

[–] mortysantiago1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not gonna read all that but any enthusiast group acts this way.

[–] esmori@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are they? Apple products have several issues that influencers/reviewers don’t mention. They are afraid of being blacklisted to Apple events/review samples.

  • iOS keyboard auto correction
  • Siri
  • notifications
  • JIt restriction
  • App Store monopoly
  • NFC restrictions
  • etc
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