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Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis. 

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country's population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People's Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

"Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children," Putin said.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I wonder if women will start getting medals for babies, like soviet times? Another question, if these women are raising 8 kids, and all the men are dead in a sunflower field south of Avdivika, who the hell is supposed to be working in Russia for the next generation? Just banking on enslaving Ukraine to pay for the cost of enslaving Ukraine?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Narayana Murthy: People should be working 70 hours/week.

Vladimir Putin: Why so few?

[–] DaDragon@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They actually introduced pretty much that exact thing back in 2008, the Order of Parental Glory. Have more children to fuel the machine, please

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Hey Putine, let me help …..

All you gotta do is excuse people from military service for being a parent. Pretty soon all military aged males will be parents and you’ll greatly reduce the number of deaths in Ukraine. Win-win

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I bet Putin sucks at StarCraft

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's one way to deal with an ageing population demographic.

Another way is to perhaps not throw every able-bodied young man into a militaristic meat grinder because you still yearn for the Soviet Union days.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah, so Russian women are broodmares for the state now?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

Always have been.

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[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

"...so that I can send your children to be killed in my war..." Putin, probably.

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[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where are these women going to find suitable partners to pick from? The smart ones left or will leave, the others will be growing sunflowers.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

pick

I think you're making an assumption that this monster is not

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why past tense? They're still dying.

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[–] b00m@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Imma start up a mail order groom app for those russian ladies

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

*Male order

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[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putin seems to be in a competition with Trump for the stupidest authoritarian prize.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Javier Milei, Matteo Salvini, Boris Johnson, Geert Wilders, Jair Bolsonaro & a frightening whole lot of others have entered the chat.

[–] Matombo@feddit.de 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well .. I don't want to say literally Hitler, but ...

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Literally Hitler

(No need to thank me)

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's why even if Russia wins the war or got some concessions, it will be a Pyrrhic victory. They're already experiencing population decline because of massive emigration aside from lower birth rate (which is why Putin is paying lip service to the conservative religious Russians to promote more birth, and in turn endeared him to conservatives across the world). The war will add to the burden of the Russian people on top of corruption and debt after the conflict.

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[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Equal to abortion banning propaganda in the west.

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[–] 01011@monero.town 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They've had a population crisis in Russia for at least 20 years.

[–] Nukken@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

It turns out if you don't value human life, it doesn't flourish.

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[–] Enfors@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So, basically, Putin is telling Russian women to "get fucked for Putin"?

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago

Blood for the blood god.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I have a friend who left Russia to get away from bullshit like the Order of Maternal Glory.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I knew they weren’t winning, but I didn’t realize things were this bad. Fuck. I mean, yay for Ukraine, but damn, Putin is a horrible human being.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Things are pretty bad for Ukraine, too.

Both of them are relying on conscription and made it illegal for military-aged men to leave the country.

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[–] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe he doesn't realize it'll take a couple decades, and he'll be dead by then, for any women having children now to see them old enough to fight or have any impact on the country

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I think he's under the delusion that he will remain in power until he's 90

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[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Putin will be remembered as the man who destroyed Russia.

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Let's keep going until there's a 1:39 male to female ratio. That'd be ideal. Not strange at all.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.

It's not about the ratio, it's about a total amount of bodies, regardless of gender, available to run/work the country, in the future generations.

They already took a big hit in World War II, and they're taking another hit now, and most nations taking two pop hits in a row don't recover well.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, with Russia, it seems like it's just been constant: WW1, revolution, WW2, Stalin's reign, now this.

If anything, rather than WW2 and this being "in a row", that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.

For as much as we (Americans) regard Russia (as a state) with an adversarial eye, as far as Russians (the actual common people) are concerned, I kinda feel for them. Seems like their entire history is dominated by difficulty, hardship, and death.

Then again maybe that impression is precisely the impression that the American education system has very carefully cultivated...

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[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Hmm. Sure, Vlad. Wait: how much will that pay, per child per month?

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[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Meat for the meat grinder.

[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good luck solving the fertility problem. I don't think any country has managed to figure it out yet.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

It's not a problem. When us women have the resources to be able to educate ourselves in the realities of the bull shit that's been peddled to us, we stop being brood mares.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (31 children)

It isn't a problem. There are already too many people on the Earth.

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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Doesn't that also equate to we've managed to kill eight of your family members?

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the ol Zap Braningan Strategy.

Brilliant strategy involving sending wave after wave of your own men to die until the war magically wins itself.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

Well I wonder whose fault this was? Probably the guy who was so bloodthirsty and crazy that he actually annexed Chernobyl of all places

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