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[–] thorcik@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)

My history teacher used to say that over the course of history every generation faces a full scale war that directly impact them. Looking through the last couple of centuries that seems about right. I haven't been in a war yet and I'm a45 years old so, yeah, I'm kinda scared.

This same teacher also used to say that the only "good" thing about a civil war is that the country that faces it nerves goes through another one ever again. Seeing how things are good in the United States now I'm starting to think that this teacher might be wrong.

[–] BenadrylChunderHatch@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Plenty of countries have had multiple civil wars.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I was going to say, I'm pretty sure this is just historically inaccurate in addition to the fact that there can always be a first for anything.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

But their name changed in between so it doesn't count /s

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

We won't have other one*

*While the generations affected are alive.

Once the living memories are gone it's much harder to prevent, since anyone can argue a stance from a history book.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This reminds me of how WWI was at one point known as 'the war to end all wars'.

How fucking naive were the people who really thought that!

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

they were hopeful...

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We were in a weird spot after the Industrial Revolution but before globalism.

Post WWII recovery changed that, when most of the developed world (sans America) was literally in shambles.

I don’t think we’ll ever see another full out war between major powers. Capitalism and the all-mighty dollar will prevent that. But at the same time it will encourage proxy wars.

Scarcity is a concern but again mostly for the smaller powers. More than likely it’ll be some sort of indebtedness between impoverished countries and their pimp nations backing them out of the proxy wars they created.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

They also said we get a financial crisis every generation. How many have we had?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Article 5

“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.'

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why has every comment here been downvoted?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia troll farms I imagine.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 years ago

We're big enough that troll farms think we're relevant! We did it, Lemmy!

[–] alucard@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

The comments don’t feel like people that are interested in a good faith discussion with a dash of troll

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Muscar@discuss.online 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When I wrote that comment, there were like 6 comments. All of them were at negative scores, and they were all very different opinions while some were not opinions at all, just info. Just looked strange.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ah, got it. Seems like things changed since then.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Reddit crew got here first maybe.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

Lemmy bugs lol

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Suoko@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago

The usual money flow. What future generation will be able to stop these should-be-retired chiefs?

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

And into the apocalypse we go

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Oh no not again

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Why Berlin? Why?

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Knowing germany, this sounds like a threat

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's an internal message. The German government just had 60 billion of their planned budget yanked away by a Supreme Court ruling. (They had planned to reroute unused money set aside for covid measures to the general budget. The court denied this, because our constitutional debt ceiling can only be ignored in an emergency, not for general spending)

Now every department is facing harsh budget cuts and every minister tries to argue why the cuts shouldn't hit their department.
Pistorius is saying "if you cut my budget, you might as well start learning to speak Russian".

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russian army is a joke if you look at their technology. I'd say it stinks like old mentality

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

I dont want jokes in Warsaw.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is useful context. Ich wil du hast links 2, 3, 4 und mutter, ja?

[–] Pingudiem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Nah dude. It will be refreshing to once not be part of the source of a world war. #fingerscrossed

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I've already poisoned you, my friend

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You don't know Germany. Even with a lower case G.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know Germany. Been there many times. And, no.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

You and Germany are like 🤞

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago
[–] Ansis@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't see, after having read the article, how one could consider it a threat. How did you come to question?

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

thanks Germany!

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