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Climate is fucked, animals continue to go extinct even more, our money will be worth nothing the coming years.. What motivation do I even have to care to keep going? The world is ran and basically owned by corrupt rich people, there's poverty, war, etc. It makes me sick to my stomach the way to world is. So I ask, why bother anymore?

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[–] Nusm@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I mean... I just found Lemmy. So there's that. 🤷

[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are real problems, but be wary of news/social media that use doom & gloom for engagement. Algorithms will drown you in the most extreme takes, even when on the "right side" of real issues.

Just try to do the right thing, and don't let the internet scare you into not living your life.

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s up to you to give your life meaning. Just because things suck, doesn’t mean it’s time to throw in the towel. Imagine the Bronze Age humans, who were getting killed over idols and and some random warlord’s whims. They persisted in the face of adversity so we exist today. Imagine the lives of the enslaved, raped, and oppressed native Americans and Africans in the face of Spanish rule in South America. They persisted with no clear future freedom in sight.

I could go on about humans facing horrible situations but my point is this: throughout history we have always faced a dark situation as a result of other human actions but we always found a reason to persist… or even fight back.

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly. In my current state persistence is key. The question “When do you want to give up the fight?” is a good one. Im hoping that everyone can get a world where they feel mostly happy. Things might go bad quickly but it’s important to remember the small things and create happiness for yourself, even if temporary (it always is).

Shit sucks; deal with it. Also you know be cool to people and they’ll be cool back.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

There was never any point. Find your own meaning and don’t give up.

[–] Uphillbothways@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Rich people don't want to sell their stocks yet. So we all can't act like adults and admit everything is fucked or their fake assets will start to lose value before they've convinced you to become so invested in the charade that you're willing to buy them.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

There was never any point. Find your own meaning and don’t give up.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Climate is fucked, but regarding everything else the world wasn't a utopia back then either. Poverty, war, corrupted overlords, etc have always existed.

Life has been pointless in the grand scheme of things and unfair, and been up to each individual to try and find

[–] grahamsz@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose that's what I come back to.

My parents lived with the threat of nuclear annihilation, my grandparents fought in ww2. My gg parents lived through ww1. Most of everyone before them lived in relative poverty.

I'm not sure id take any of them over the current situation. Certainly there are massive problems looming that will cause lots of suffering, but humans do find joy and purpose at all times

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

What else you gonna do, lay down and die? Life is a short amount of time anyways. Just make best with what you got. YOLO

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is a very pessimistic perspective.

Also poverty and hunger are lower than ever before (considering previous eras, and it's not yet good). More and more people are getting education. Fairness towards women and minorities used to get better.

We're having scientific advancements every day and can easily communicate with people around the globe, and it's even cheap and available to many people. Some people think we'll soon invent general artificial intelligence and maybe robots will do the unattractive labor for us. Some people (i'm not sure if i trust people like Elon Musk(?)) even say science is soon going to solve things like overpopulation and climate change. They want star trek to become true. Also medicine is getting better each day, we can cure more and more things and people need to suffer less and less. Maybe there is a cure for cancer coming up in the next decade.

Is it really on the decline? Are we having less or more wars than we used to have? Can we afford more or less stuff than our parents or grandparents did? I'm not sure... Things are a bit complicated and sometimes something gets worse while other things get better. Sometimes it's for short or longer periods. I get what you mean and it's a problem. And too many people around the world are suffering things we could have fixed by now. But this is only half of the story.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wonder about this sometimes. Things aren't great and will get worse before they get better at the very least.

I figure that even if the world is ending and there's nothing I can do about it, I can still do small kindnesses whenever possible. The question is how small to go for maximum effect. If you could be a little more ambitious and definitely succeed it follows that you're not doing enough, so the optimal amount of ambition must have some risk of failure.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Our lives, too, have meaning beyond these issues. The relationships we form, the joy we find in our passions, the simple pleasures we get from a beautiful day or a good meal - these things matter. They give us strength to face the larger problems of our world.

And in the face of these problems, we can find a purpose. Many people find fulfillment in dedicating themselves to fighting for a better future. Whether that’s in climate change activism, social justice, or just in being a kinder, more understanding person, we can all make a difference.

[–] Nonameuser678@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Try to find meaning in whatever works for you. A lot of people find this in things like relationships, family, hobbies, interests and activism. Essentially, don't let the bastards grind you down. Existential philosophy may not be everyone's cup of tea but it can be helpful in navigating these kinds of issues.

[–] lemminer@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Seriously I can't help it to see it in any other way. At the least I'm trying my best to not to be the part of it.

But it is really tough to live with a conscious.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Less "world" and more private life, and everything begins to have sense.

[–] speex@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Your question makes me think of this video: The Goddess of Everything Else

https://youtu.be/Bbwp4PbWYzw

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[–] zlatiah@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

(insert astronaut meme) never has been

Jokes aside... This is my personal philosophy & probably won't align with everyone's. As someone who started science quite young, I realized quite early that beyond societal issues, literally nothing is "meaningful"... If Earth itself will be gone in a few billion years, might as well practice some optimistic nihilism and do some stuff with whatever life I have. There's still stuff to do even if society doesn't prioritize ppl like me

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

There was never any point. Find your own meaning and don’t give up.

[–] bigwag1@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Check out some videos on Eternalized channel on youtube

[–] neko@fishfry.cheese.beer 0 points 2 years ago

There's nothing we can do as individuals unless you own a multinational corporation, and we're all going to die in a few decades, so just have fun now

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