They already get a lot of 💰from ad revenue, charging for a subscription just made that revenue even bigger.
It’s possible they’re losing some coins here and there from the ad revenue that they’ve become so aggressive 😆
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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Hopefully we get a decent alternative soon
PeerTube exists but it is not popular. It has a lot of potential though
It's about to have more potential for growth.
small cease and desist for users
I really think that Brave will circumvent this. Btw, YouTube will sue Invidious if they don't stop offering the service in the following weeks. So I think YouTube is onto something here.
Vivaldi might be able to as well since its built in ad blocker is similar.
I feel like extensions are pretty savvy for fixing this. If not, I will waste less time on YouTube. Hell, why not another big site getting over my limit for hoops that are worth jumping through vs value I get.
Yup, a lot of my time got wasted on YouTube.. I watched "educational" and "interesting" videos but I have to say that many of the creators got caught into enshittification process too.. I would do well with 95% reduction in watch time. However, if they start a real war against adblockers.. 100% reduction will it be.
The 10min minimum is why I pretty much stopped posting. If you don't provide enough viewing time for 2 pre-rolls and one intermission your revenue per 1k views drops off and you don't get promoted to new viewers.
It is clear that YT needs income for its infrastructure and showing ads is a valid method, also to offer a premium account. If it were to see a banner on the page or even on the edge or below the video, it would be acceptable, but it is not when they destroy a concert with advertorials in the middle of the video or other too invasive ones that do not allow the video to be seen. With this, the use of an adblocker becomes a legitimate and necessary defense. If they still do not allow it, there is no other option than to use one of these front-ends or desktop-clients that exist, which extract the video without the ads, or go to adblockers at DNS level in the OS. Too bad that YT, regarding content offer, lacks valid competitors and this position can lead to abuse in front of the user.
Too bad that YT, regarding content offer, lacks valid competitors and this position can lead to abuse in front of the user.
It's the same as any other platform - the network effect. People are more likely to produce content for youtube because thats where the users are.
That said, it's easier for content creators to support alternatives because unlike social media where everyone is a creator video content producers have a creator > follower relationship, so there's almost no cost to them to upload the same content on other sites.
I subscribed to nebula a while back. There's not heaps of content, and all (ok almost all) of it is available for free on youtube. However, I'm happy to pay provided that most of the revenue is going to creators, and I'm happy to support a non-advertising-revenue model.
I actually do not understand the widespread hostility that people have toward this kind of thing. I watch a lot of content on YouTube, and I don't want to see ads, so I pay for premium. I watch a lot of content on Twitch, and I don't want to see ads, so I pay for turbo. Hosting a major video streaming website isn't cheap. It's not like these things are unreasonably priced. If you hate the ads so much, then why not pay for the service that the platform is offering you, and for the content that creators are providing on it? And if you don't watch often enough for ad-free viewing to be worth a few bucks a month to you, then why get so worked up about having to sit through an ad every now and then?
And if you don’t watch often enough for ad-free viewing to be worth a few bucks a month to you, then why get so worked up about having to sit through an ad every now and then?
There is an awkward gap where most services (not just YouTube) don't offer reasonable pricing for consuming small amounts of content. So if you consume a lot of YouTube, the subscription price is justified. If you consume very little YouTube, you can probably suffer through some ads. But if you're somewhere in the middle, there isn't a great option.
YouTube probably makes fractions of a cent off of ads on a single video it shows me, but I can't pay fractions of a cent to watch one video.
I'd consider this to actually be a pretty widespread problem across the internet, where it's frustratingly difficult to buy small amounts of content for a reasonable price. It's either the subscription or nothing for a ton of services.
I hate ads. They are annoying, and waste too much of my time, are irrelevant to me 90% of the time, and often can be malicious.
I would like to watch videos on youtube, but I dont wish to watch videos on youtube if there are ads. Also, ads are not every now and again, they are 2 ads for every video without fail now. 2x 30s ads for a 5 minute video is as bad as cable, I ditched cable and replaced it with youtube.
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I pay for a youtube premium family plan. Best money I spend monthly. I want to support the youtube creators that I watch, I don't have to see ads (I block them anyway), and I get a music service included.
I'm with you ... except for the music part. I think their music service is so awful, I pay for a Tidal subscription even though I get YouTube Music for free.
I'm of the belief that if I'm going to use a commercial site regularly, and they have a reasonable subscription, then I'm very willing to pay.
But in either case, ima going to block ads.
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