Instead of making these two idiots our only options, why don't we vote for other people instead?
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Biden is doing a fine job. The world is on fire, we need a steady hand right now.
You may think he's doing a fine job but polling says most do not. https://news.gallup.com/poll/547763/biden-ends-2023-job-approval.aspx
Absolutely. There's no other reasonable option. There are other options. None of them are reasonable.
I will likely vote for Biden because I don't consume MSM junk news or Putin's psyops propaganda that permeates social media. Few people understand the Israel/Palestine situation
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However if the next election ends up being something similar to the current one where it becomes another a vote not for X means a vote for Y, I'm going to vote Z regardless of the potential outcome it's the only way to actually make change in our system it just requires people actually going through with the threat of not voting X or Y
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This entire thread is such a rage bait lol. Decent attempt :P
Socialism 2024
End the MIC or enjoy Trump's reign of terror..
It is on Biden to course correct and be serious about trying to win here. It seems that is not in the plans. The message of fear is not going to be enough when Trump was already President before.
Neolibs after voting for 5 steps towards fascism instead of 10:
"We did it Patrick! We saved democracy!"
No.
You cannot hold us hostage and blame us if Trump wins. Biden can stop supporting a genocide. The DNC could drop him as a candidate.
This is a choice the Democratic elite are making. And if there are no consequences here then there's no hope to get off this pro corporate train into fascism either. They'll just keep following the GOP to the right until in 2028 it's, "we have to support Harris Youth because DeSantis would dissolve Congress."
I've watched the Democrats dive to the right every single election in my life, except one. And I've held my nose every single time they did it.
There are so many people on Lemmy who don't get this. I don't know why.
It feels like they think the only choice is Fascism or Fascism-Lite. The other option is to put your foot down and let the world know you want better, not slightly less bad.
If all these people who'll be brigading these comments with "Not voting Biden is a vote for Trump" would email their representatives instead to say no to all this bullshit, we'd be fine.
But no, it's me that's wrong. I have to vote for the octagenarian war criminal to avoid WW3. It can't be the DNC that fucked up by not fielding a better candidate. I already did this in 2016. I'm not keen to do this again.
I live in a blue state, so unless the poles are even slightly worrying I might vote 3rd party. But regardless I'll probably vote Biden.
I'm just gonna abstain to vote for president but vote down the ballot blue everywhere else.
Because I have been told time and time again that Biden doesn't need to court Progressives because the important thing is courting the centrists who will get him elected. So if I won't make an impact then, why does it matter if I don't vote for him?
It can't be both that my vote is the most important and not necessary. And I get the argument of, "well he needs to court the centrists who are morons and you just need to vote because you know better." but I know better and I won't just be a reliable vote just because they expect it they are owed it for not being worse.
I want a government that takes it's job seriously. Not expects to keep it because what other choice do I have. And my only power is voice and vote which is practically worthless as working class.
So either Biden will win because everyone is right. No left party in the US and they don't need us or they are gonna change tactics. But I'm tired.

