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I wanted to pick a name that's generic and not specific to any particular platform. For example, !microblogmemes@lemmy.world instead of !whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

I don't see a community for that yet, aside from !loops@midwest.social, which is specific to Loops.

Some sources of the content could be:

  • Fediverse Loops
  • Tiktok
  • Instagram Reels
  • YouTube Shorts

The sidebar could include guides on how to link to the content in a more accessible way (ex. alternate front-ends or re-posting).

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This is in regards to the brand-new !AskUSA@discuss.online community.

And by more serious discussions I mean e.g. the legality of the recent jury nullification issue, which I don't want to allow if I were a moderator in it.

If you say yes you will be granted the community "ownership" as the sole moderator. I've only been a mod myself on Lemmy for less than a day but we'll figure out how to transfer it to you. You can ofc always add new mods and change it however you like after that. The advantage here is chiefly that you get the community "name" AskUSA, whereupon I could later create e.g. a CasualUSA but you would have the privileges of that specific name, to match the style of e.g. AskUK or AskLemmy (or AskScience or AskMen or AskElectronics or AskAndroid etc. - there are so many here using that style:-).

I don't want to be involved in something that is going to constantly be depressing to me, though I do recognize the need for such and am offering the community "name" if someone else wants to pick up that mantle.

While if nobody says yes then I suppose I'll just keep it going in the more CasualUSA light-hearted style, until such time as someone does. Either way I'll offer to help grow it by posting and commenting to it regularly - unless you want me to stop b/c I tend to be really bad at guessing what people want to see (e.g. personally I love John Oliver and also got involved in the Reddit protests, so why people are downvoting sexy pics of JO on Lemmy of all places... I seriously have no clue).

The community also needs moderators to help in general - so even if you don't want to take it over, would you like to help moderate it if it were to remain a more casual, light-hearted community?

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If you want your community to grow, there's things you can do to help. Some of them are better than others. What are things that are good for the Fediverse, and what are some things that are better left on other platforms? Here's a few things and my opinions

  • Clickbaity titles ("Liberals DESTROYED by LOGIC") - No thank you.

  • Consistent posting - Yes. If you start a community, you'll probably be the only one posting on there for a while. It's easier to bootstrap a community if it's something that comes with content ready-to-go somehow to make your job easier.

  • GIFs - I've been using this over in !observances@midwest.social. That's about as growth-hacky as I'd like to get, but I'm pretty sure people are more likely to engage with animated GIFs than static images for communities like that.

  • Sources - I think this is something that can differentiate the Fediverse from other platforms. On my posts in !outofcontextcomics@lemmy.world, I've been spending time to source everything before posting it. This makes sure I don't accidentally post edited images that I've seen over in /r/outofcontextcomics, and makes the Fediverse show up in searches. That actually probably hurts growth a little bit, but IMO is worth it

  • Transcribing - Another differentiator for the Fediverse. Everything's been done by hand and it's been great. I've been transcribing my posts in !outofcontextcomics@lemmy.world and I've been very happy to see that search engines are already picking those up.

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I like the concept of fedigrow and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca and similar communities to get more attention to new and small communities, but I was missing a way to promote german speaking communities.

That's why I started !communitypromo@feddit.org yesterday. A place for the DACH region (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) to share and request communities that communicate primarily in german.

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I tried multiple times to win over H.P.-communities to join Lemmy, until now with no success. Usually they either dont reply, threaten to ban me (Reddit) or say they dont have the time.

The latter happened to me just recently. They heard about the Fediverse, think its cool, but are already overwhelmed with keeping the site up.

What do you think here? Are you having similar experiences? Are you even doing it? Whould it be a good idea to propose a minimal solution like RSS-integration rather than full AP-support?

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SOLUTION: literally write out [exclamation mark]community@instance. Do not use the autocomplete function. This works in both the sidebar and comments.

Using the URL markdown method (to have the display text be different from the dynamic link) impacts other UIs.

If you enter this:

You get this:

The links in the screenshot above will work in a graceful manner irrespective of what instance (or even what UI/platform?) you use.


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What are the best practises for adding links to other communities in your sidebar?

I mod the LW hardware community and all the links are tied to LW.

So https://programming.dev/c/linuxhardware

is linked via https://lemmy.world/c/linuxhardware@programming.dev

But that would mean anyone not on LW would get a logged out view of LW accessing the programming.dev/linuxhardware community. I don't have a programming.dev account so I added an LW-specific URL.

Is there some sort of markdown code that would "auto redirect" the user to a view based on their instance without any use of explicit URLs. For a second I thought that's what the exclamation mark does, but turns out it's just a shortcut for adding community URLs.

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Why consolidate communities?

One of the advantages of a decentralized platform like Lemmy is the ability to create parallel communities on the same topic. "You don't like how a community is being moderated? Go to another instance and start a new community!" (with or without blackjack and hookers)

However, this is also a double-edged sword. The creation of multiple communities on the same (or similar) topics can also fragment the userbase, leading to very sparsely populated communities.

A few perspectives in favour of consolidation: (credits to @Ashyr@sh.itjust.works, @otter@lemmy.ca, and @Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone)

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/11171955

I think until there’s some tool or system that helps collate all the information out here, fragmentation is detrimental to growth.

I’m not going to copy and paste the same comment with every mirrored post.

So sometimes commenting feels like a waste of time.

Centralizing helps ensure that there’s vibrant, consistent discussion which is what Lemmy should be about.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/8823953

I like this because people showing up to those communities might think that topic doesn’t have activity on Lemmy, when it actually does.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/8370860

I sometimes think that unmoderated communities should be closed, and just be left and locked with a pointer to the active one. In case an issue arises with the active one, they can still be unlocked and used as back up.

Consolidating electric vehicle communities

Applying these principles to the EV communities on Lemmy, let's take an overview of what currently exists:

General-purpose:

Location-specific:

Other:

Do all of these communities serve a distinct purpose? If not, could we consolidate some of them?

While Lemmy does not currently have a built-in way of moving or merging communities, @Blaze@lemmy.cafe has had some success with pinning an explanation post directing users to the new community and locking the old one. Is this something which could be applied to the EV communities on Lemmy?

The next question is, of course "Which communities should we consolidate to?"

Given the general sentiment to move off of ML (for ideological reasons) and off of World (to avoid centralization of instances), my proposal would be !electricvehicles@slrpnk.net. I think the SolarPunk instance is a nice match for an EV community, but I am interested to hear what others think.

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Seems like there is an appetite from a few people from aussie.zone so that you guys can be kept up-to-date.

Pinging a few other people that are usually interested in this kind of stuff.

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I've seen the idea of organically growing communities indirectly and directly mentioned in various threads when people discuss which communities they'd like to see on instances, and in a different way in response to community creation announcements. Despite this, and some inconsistent efforts on my own part, I've not seen too many others appear to be trying to put this in action.

I think any of the open-ended chat/conversation/general communities are a good place to start with this, but I've found it tricky to work out what to post to them. I suspect that may be somewhat similar for others, but being in the boat with'em, I'm not sure how to help.

Regardless, I think these communities make more sense for people to find those that share their interests to then start their own communities vs. starting communities before knowing if anyone else is interested.

What do you think, and what do you think would help people feel comfortable posting in these broader communities?

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Realized it's been a while

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee
 
 

Just wondering if anyone has ideas around best practices for cross posting articles?

I recently setup !fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com and mainly only post to that community, with no cross posting.

My thinking was that it's probably best for subscribers/readers to crosspost to other communities, rather than me "spamming" the articles to other communities.

But I'm not sure it's the best way to go, since it's kind of hard to get traction with a new community initially.

Any thoughts on what is a good practice way to go about increasing visibility of the community a bit more, without annoying people? Or is it maybe best to stick to the current approach and let things happen organically?

Edit: I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to provide feedback on this post. I got a lot of useful info, and will incorporate your suggestions in future.

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Hello everyone,

!showsandmovies@lemm.ee, the non-LW alternative to talk about TV shows, is quite successful (2.08K users / month)

It's still mostly me posting the content (by the way, thank you @realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club, @reef@lemmy.ca and @BrikoX@lemmy.zip for posting too), so I'm creating this thread hoping that other people interested in the topic would come to post about their favorite shows there too!

For mods, we are currently two, so if you want to join feel free to comment on the relevant pinned thread. I created it 1 month ago and never had any comment, but who knows

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by lemmee_in@lemm.ee to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee
 
 

I made a post in programming.dev/c/privacy, but it's not there on the programming.dev side

And I checked my profile https://programming.dev/u/lemmee_in@lemm.ee

And it shows this

What's going on here?

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Gradually we've been seeing the tv and movies or shows and movies communities pick up activity, which is good, and the multiple games communities each seem to be doing okay too.

Entertainment

However, there remains kind of an awkward spot where there's not exactly a general entertainment community (outside of Beehaw, that is) from what I can tell. There is an existing community, !entertainment@lemm.ee, though that someone could try to pick up and make active.

This could serve as a catchall for some of the more business-oriented news and some of the fluff celebrity chatter, depending on how one wants to go with it. Worth noting for celebrity chatter there is also !popculturechat@sh.itjust.works though.

Music

In a similar vein, while there's a variety of music communities, there's only a few generic ones, with the largest outside of Beehaw and Hexbear being the largely undefined Music community on Lemmy World. The lack of definition, that is, no sidebar guidance on what the community may be used for, makes it unclear what the community's expectations/preferences for posts are.

As with entertainment, this could be where more music business news could find its home, alongside some band chatter. Although as with entertainment, there's a music-themed community for the chatter to be found at !popheads@poptalk.scrubbles.tech for those interested.

Sports

Likewise with sports, there's a ton of different sports communities, but only two large generic communities to be found on Beehaw and Hexbear (supposing Lemmyverse is accurate). Before any of the more specific sports communities can gain more activity, I think it'd help to have a generic sports community to help people get oriented and find likeminded folks to form whatever specific communities they'd like.

Much like the first two, this could be for sports news and chatter...But unlike the first two, I can't find any generic fluff sports star/team chat communities.

Ideas on How and Where to Organize

In each of these cases regarding broader communities, I think following a similar organizational approach to Beehaw could be a good idea, but they would be better suited to instances more openly federated and not at as much risk of defederation. A few Lemmy instances that come to mind for this are Lemmee, ShitJustWorks, Lemmy Zip, and perhaps Reddthat?

I'm not sure where Mbin instances are in terms of federation smoothness and stability, otherwise I might suggest some of them. On a different note, if there were more Piefed instances I might suggest them, but last I checked the flagship seems to still be the largest and isn't open for community creation.


In short: there's good opportunities for broad, generic topic communities for entertainment, music, and sports on more widely federated instances. At the same time, even where these communities may exist on some widely federated instances, opportunity remains for more clearly defined variations of these communities to encourage posting with less uncertainty.

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My current instance, diagonlemmy.social has no images, which is not great. So I'm thinking about creating an instance with a Harry Potter meme community.

What do you think?

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Hello everyone,

If you look at https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy?version=0.19.3, you see a few instances that host alternatives to LW communities

Lemmy 0.19.5, has been released on 19 June, we are now three months later.

I've been reaching out to a few of them

Now, important disclaimer

I am personally very thankful for those admins to manage those instances. I have been posting to those communities a lot to try to better decentralization,, and it's very generous of them to give their time, energy and infrastructure to run those instances.

On the other hand, having such long times between updates releases and the instance actually updating concerns me a bit, because it seems to show that those instances are relying on one single admin which could disappear overnight, and might also have trouble with reacting in case of incident.

I guess the opposite view is that it doesn't matter so much, they'll update when they update, and they probably don't prioritize those updates as much compared to an actual incident (which we saw back in the days with the federation issues between LW and Australia / New Zealand servers).

For people curious about LW (still running 0.19.3 as well), they told me they wanted to skip 0.19.5 due to this one issue https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/2629 which if fixed in 0.19.6. It makes sense due the high number of mods they sometimes have per community).

That's it for me, curious to hear what you all think.

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee
 
 

Slightly surprised to find the Adulting, Career Guidance, and Jobs communities haven't gained too much traction, or in one case stalled out. Although these communities aren't the most exciting or uplifting, so it also makes sense.

I'm talking about the following on Lemmy World specifically:

Given the second community never went anywhere, it's probably best to instead focus on Jobs if anyone was interested. Unfortunately in the case of both the Jobs and Adulting community, the moderators no longer seem to be active to coordinate with to help the communities along.

In looking about the only similar communities I could find to these were on other instances one might also consider too large or controversial, if not both (e.g. Lemmy ml and Lemmygrad). Given their lack of activity, if there was enough interest they might be rebuilt on other instances with more effort to get them going. However, seeing as that already seems to be something of an uphill struggle, revitalizing what's here might be preferable.

Thoughts?

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