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STUP•ID•POL:

Analysis and critique of identity fetishism as a political phenomenon, from a Marxist perspective.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qdzct8/how_could_a_large_sum_of_money_be_used_to_advance/

My cousin is an Eastern Orthodox monk of a very small monastery. He doesn't use the internet so I'm not creating any serious risk for them by talking about this.

After the hegumen died, he was appointed to take over the fiscal and fiduciary responsibilities for the monastery, where he discovered that they have about €200 Million in assets, all from a childless oligarch who died in the early 2000s and donated what I assume was his entire stock portfolio to the monastery.

Discussing this with my cousin, they have mostly kept this a secret to avoid getting raided by bandits and thieves. Beyond paying to sustain the property, as well as a lot of goodwill and welfare for those in need, they've largely kept this money untouched. With the other members getting older, they'd like to find a way to use this money in a way that will help the public, but not in a way that furthers capitalism or dependence on it. Some ideas they had were to build a massive housing project/new city (talking 10,000+ units), where the rent would be just €200 per month to cover upkeep and future renovation costs. This probably wouldn't be enough to make a serious dent in the housing issue though. So I had a more ambitious idea of using this money to hire engineers, and start some employee-owned industrial companies to starve out the worst oligarchs in the country. And this would likely be more sustainable than a simple housing complex.

In short, how would you spend your money to fight capitalism in a way that is the most helpful and effective to the most people possible?

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1q6qfzr/how_do_you_respond_to_the_socialism_has_killed/

Capitalists typically argue against Socialism by bringing up the ostensibly socialist regimes of the 20th century and the millions of people they allegedly killed through direct violence or famine.

What do you think is the best way to respond to this argument?

Capitalist regimes have killed far more and continue to do so?

The regimes in question weren’t truly socialist?

Or simply restating the reasons why Socialism is a better system than Capitalism?

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qdkpfn/rest_in_power_rosa_luxemburg/

She was murdered on this day in 1919. As she fell so did the communists in Germany. With their downfall there was nothing to stop the Nazi take over of Germany.

In another world, the German communists seized power during the uprising. Being the most advanced industrial nation at the time, had they succeeded and allied with the USSR we could very well be living in a radically different and better world.

Friedrich Engels once said: ‘Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism.’ … Until now, we have all probably read and repeated these words thoughtlessly, without suspecting their fearsome seriousness. … Today, we face the choice exactly as Friedrich Engels foresaw it a generation ago: either the triumph of imperialism and the collapse of all civilization as in ancient Rome, depopulation, desolation, degeneration – a great cemetery. Or the victory of socialism, that means the conscious active struggle of the international proletariat against imperialism and its method of war

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1q9aguf/watching_how_the_msm_talks_about_mamdani_is_the/

Every other day, I have to sit down and hear about how I should be outraged that the second cousin of the assistant janitor at an NYC school posted something vaguely antisemitic on social media when he was 12, or that Mamdani used a word that's on the 12th page of the Communist Manifesto...he hasn't even been in charge for a month and already the MSM is smearing him wall-to-wall for every unorthodox action or statement he makes that upsets one of the most privileged classes in NY society.

It's not all that different from the TDS we had to endure for years and years. I will grant that libs have been right about a lot of Trump's tendencies, but the fact that he commands so much goodwill from the population is very largely because people have learned to tune out the outrage from the media. So, now that it's an actual fire and not just smoke,so many people can't seem to be bothered because they think it's just another TWO SCOOPS scandal

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qd7inh/when_does_the_state_have_authority_to_use_force/

This is inspired by recent events but it's intended to be more broad spectrum.

Let's talk about Malheur Wildlife Refuge. Back in 2016 a guy didn't want to pay about a million dollars in taxes that he hadn't paid for about 20 years. So logically he occupied a federal government building and a bunch of people joined him and a bunch of supportive people back home mailed in dildos. The fucking glowies thought "this wasn't nice" and tried to shut down the party and murdered a guy.

Think about it. Some guy doesn't want to pay his taxes, not even a victimless crime, just victimless, no crime, and now you, a random third party, gets murdered just cause you want to show the cops the cool gun you have? Bullshit!

Let's jump to another place and time. You're Joe Steel and you've been democratically elected to collectivize farms. You tell the kulaks to turn in their grain and animals. They don't. So you go to collect their grain and they hide it in their barns. They lock you out. So you break the lock, but they try to stop you. So you get a court order, and they burn the grain. At what point does it just make sense to [fedpost]?

The obvious answer is that the government shouldn't use force when they're doing something you don't like (trying to get me to pay taxes), and should use force when they're doing something you do like (going door to door to arrest Jan 6th rioters months after the fact). But what if you're wrong, because I'm always right?

If I can commit armed robbery with no repercussions by simply threatening to [fedpost], then why wouldn't everyone do it all the time? If the brooks brothers can riot whenever they feel like it, why bother having elections?

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1qcdcr1/i_think_an_underdiscussedacknowledged_problem/

I have been thinking about this the past few days, and have come to the conclusion that it's really bad news. The centrist-to-soft-progressive establishment does have people with a will to power (i.e. to wield power and foist their vision upon others simply due to their conviction that it is right; in other words, to act politically). Its only acceptable cultural expression, however, is hidden under layers of bureaucracy and disguised with an entire specialized lexicon. Samantha Power and Anne-Marie Slaughter (great names btw) were only able to bomb all those countries because they had advanced degrees from elite institutions and an entire appendix of institutional positions that allowed them to wield power, which is clearly what they wanted to do. Perhaps the best example of this culture of "hiding" the power you really have a libidinal desire to wield, comes from a recent piece by Lily Lynch on former Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin, where her true motivation briefly breaks cover:

In Chappaqua, Marin didn’t hold back. ‘I love power’, she told the audience. Power, she confided, is the thing she missed most about being prime minister. After all the contrived effort to present an image of feel-good millennial relatability, and all the feigned Nordic modesty, it was an admission that finally felt honest.

This model was partly a victim of its own contradictions, where the middle-class politesse developed in academia meant that all voices and perspectives had to be listened to and respected. This became its own moral economy which obviously cut against, and to a degree ate into, the actual stakes on offer, of wielding power over others; it also exposed the emptiness of the ideological justification, as there were ever more glaring carve-outs for whose voices in fact did not matter at all (Palestinians being by far the most obvious and devastating example). The result is that the libreal center now has a position on power and a justification for its use that has now essentially collapsed, but that they cant acknowledge as having collapsed; the Powers and Slaughters of today are still constrained by the same ideology, but the ideology patently doesn't make even a rudimentary kind of sense. I think the practical result of this is actually paralysis, but why exactly would take a lot more thought I guess.

Needless to say, the right doesn't have this problem. Power is to be wielded, the right to wield it is won by putting yourself in a position to do so, and collateral damage is to be ignored or justified. Say what you like about the moral vacuum here or the shitload of unintended consequences, but it is at least an effective ideology for doing stuff. It seems to me that anyone who wants to wield power (as is in my view inherent to a kind of unquantifiable portion of the population) will today naturally end up on the right for this reason.

This is a historical anomaly that sets us apart from the 19th century, which (many have by now pointed out) it feels in many ways like we're back in. Many 19th-century liberals, let alone radicals, displayed a bravery of action and clarity of principle that is simply unthinkable today (I'm thinking of the actions of someone like Robert Blum in 1848, who gave his life to defend Vienna from the Austrian monarchy). This creates serious trouble for the possibility of anything more than token resistance. All this is to say that once again, until we get rid of the rotting corpse of liberalism and all the ways it's tying us down, we're completely fucking stuck.

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