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I am not criticizing them, I'm just out of the loop.

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[–] kbity@kbin.social 224 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Fediverse is home to a lot of young, tech-minded people distrustful of major corporations. The younger generations are more likely to come out as transgender due to greater awareness and acceptance of gender identity and dysphoria, and a decentralised, open platform is naturally going to appeal to communists, syndicalists and other left-wingers who don't want some billionaire buying the next website they get comfortable on. And funnily enough, there are a surprising number of trans people in the tech sector, to the point where trans-flag socks have become a meme among programmers.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This seems like the most straightforward answer. But it doesn't explain why people on the right haven't come to the fediverse in proportional numbers. I know a lot of right leaning Libertarian communities, and for some reason they like cryptocurrency and FOSS but not the fediverse.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 2 years ago

There are right-wing instances of Mastodon (gab, truth, and others), not to mention many Pleroma ones, as well as Lemmy (exploding heads, and probably others). It's just that they get quickly defederated by everyone else for various valid reasons (usually hate and abuse, sometimes even child porn), so you don't get to interact with them much. They just get stuck in their own bubble.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

But they have. It's just they are so hateful and annoying that sooner than later they get banned or defederated. So they drop out of the face of the activity pub. Since no single entity can use an algo to force their views onto all users (ads or suggestion algos) they never resurface.

And of course crypto bros hate the fediverse, it doesn't let them force their ponzi schemes with ads or SEOed posts. And most people here were initially pretty tech savvy individuals, almost all actively hostile against nfts and altcoins. As for Foss, they only like that the software is free, the freedom ideology is just lip service for them, they don't actually believe. Case in point, Oracle. Foss? Free for me but not for thee.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

People on the right don't see the issue with neoliberalism. They are mostly fine with all the ads based system and corporate making billions out of the datas. Neoliberalism tend towards fascism with time. They will prefer fascism to redistribute profits to the workers.

The fediverse is a different point of view. You can defederate if it goes wrong with an instance what makes the profits by ad revenue impossible or too small. The big corps don't have a huge interest in these platform without profits. People on the right will follow these corps and the platforms affiliated.

On the left, people will federate. I recommend to have a good read about the fondation of the unions in the 19th century. People of the diversity will historically be on the left rather than on the right. Again, for the profits, the neoliberals will prefer to oppress you as a minority for the profits than to have social and societal consideration for you.

You ends with the people of the left coming to the fediverse and the right on corps social media.

[–] kbity@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

They already have alt-tech, which had kind of a headstart on the Fediverse.

[–] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

You don't have to be a right wing extremist to be libertarian (small L).

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'd argue the 'young' though. Polls I've seen, seem to show a huge 30-40 demographic.

[–] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ya, most young people I know that are not in tech are terrible with tech. They have only experienced EZmode and need shit put on a silver platter.